Gun Control: A Survey of the Police.

[Kasz216]

curl-6 said:

Kasz216 said:

starcraft said:

NobleTeam360 said:

 

Gun crime =/= crime.

Also... exatly what studies are you talking about... because generally the studies you read DON'T show that, and instead show that any drops in violenet crime were part of a trend of decreased violent crime that has been going on pretty much everywhere since the 80's.  

The only thing being lowered, is suicide as committed by guns.

I seem to recall you being Australian, so...

http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/content/47/3/455.abstract

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/gun-laws-fall-short-in-war-on-crime/2005/10/28/1130400366681.html

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1540791

We've had this discussion before, but since the semi-auto buyback scheme introduced by the 1996 Port Arthur Massacre, there has not been a single gun massacre in Australia. Gun culture is not entrenched here like it is in the US, it is much, much harder to get hold of guns, especially the now banned semi-autos.

Hell, most drug dealers here don't even have a gun. They carry knives.

A) As has already been covered that's not really true.  There have been mass shootings, it's just that the actual death rates haven't been considered high enough to qualify.  

 Additionally, the population of Australia is like 7% the Population of the United States.   If you took all other things as even.

 

B) Read the studies.

 

C) Most drug dealers in the US don't carry guns.    A lot of them are felons.. and its a crime for a felon to carry a gun.   Shit in the state I live in if your a felon and you have a gun you get 10 years in jail.

 

Generally criminals keep their weapons at home unless they are planning to comit a crime/think someone is after them.

 

Also, i think you understimate the gun blackmarket.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-17/illegal-gun-trade-dominates-crime-conference/5030028