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Pemalite said:
Wyrdness said:

it's common knowledge consoles are more efficient with their specs then PCs it's how even after 7 years the 360/PS3 can run games at its specs compared to the higher requirements on PC, "LMAO" at that notion calls you out hard and you're starting to fall a part here. Your logic that developers have a handle on something previously so they should be perfect on new hardware is I'm sorry to say beyond misguided it simply doesn't work that way as the are a number of factors.

That's good about PS2/GC except they weren't the consoles I was talking about as they were the start of consoles using CPUs a lot more, older consoles were more GPU dependant. As for your last part it proves my earlier point and some of it is not even coherant.


Nope.avi

Consoles aren't always more efficient.
Take Oblivion for instance, it can run on PC hardware that's a fraction of the Xbox 360's and still run better.
Take Minecraft, on a PC that's equipped similar to the Xbox 360, you can still have unlimited worlds and a heap more players.
Take the origional Crysis on PC, it had far more foliage and effects than the console version on hardware that was equivalent to the consoles.
Take pretty much every Call of Duty, it could run on hardware similar to the consoles with better image quality.
Take Bioshock 1+2, it could run on PC hardware that's significantly less than the consoles and still look better.

I could continue on forever, but you get the idea.
If you take a game like Battlefield 3 or 4, it's almost an entirely new game on the PC when compared to the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, you get larger maps, more players, higher resolution, better framerates, effects such as Tessellation, massively improved textures and other bonuses, of course that comes at the cost of better hardware being required.
Games like Civilization and StarCraft 2 are actually impossible on the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 due to the lack of CPU horsepower.

Mantle however, will remove the API overhead, thus allowing PC's to be as efficient as the next generation of consoles when it comes to graphics tasks, optimisation for the CPU isn't really required considering the multiples faster CPU speeds the PC has had for years, even when compared to next generation.

The PC is also not limited to the horrible and old 1920x1080@60fps, Steam also provides games for cheap, especially during sales.

It looks like you came here to crush more minds and myths Hehehe. Master race FTW. Mantle will bring even more goodness for the time being.