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snowdog said:
fatslob-:O said:
Viper1 said:
fatslob-:O said:

If the system had an hd 5650 the ports wouldn't be so troublesome!

Early ports were troublesome because of the CPU, not GPU.  Games developed on the PS3 or X360 are done so with game engines designed around a 3.2 Ghz clock rate.   The Wii U's CPU is just 1.24 Ghz.  The game engines themselves had problems on Wii U early on.   Notice that it's not such as issue with newer games as they've either began to use their next generation game engine (which is based on much lower clock cycles of the PS4 and XOne) or have learned better optimization of the older gen engine on Wii U.

Don't forget that the Wii U also pushes an extra 400,000 pixels over the X360 and PS3 with each game.  That's almost half of a 720p image right there on top of the game itself.

Clock rates don't mean a whole lot and they don't tell the full story! All that matters is that whether or not the CPU has enough performance. You know this! The ibm espresso has nothing more to offer other than more performance compared to the ibm broadway. It's architecture remains largely unchanged since the ibm gekko days. Essentially what the WII U has is basically a scaled up gamecube processor. Nintendo was dumb enough to settle backwards compatiblity rather than just move forward and be done with a more improved architecture. *rolls eyes* I don't recall any devs having issues with the CPU in fact the only one I can remember complaining was 4A Games. The next generation game engines only have improvements on multithreading.

I also realize that some resources are being hogged by the gamepad. Nontheless CPUs in the coming generation will mostly be a nonfactor. I still standby that the wii u can achieve more with less! (I'm sure pretty technical like pemalite would stand by my statement even though he dislikes all consoles equally.

I think we've had enough of saying that the wii u is weak just by looking at the specs. Nylevia would most likely agree that the WII U can also get a better output than the sub hd twins. 



Expresso isn't a scaled up Gekko or Broadway. There are similarities but both of those are single core CPUs that can't clock over 1GHz. It's a common misconception that Expresso is '3 x Broadways duct-taped together'.

All we know for certain is that both the CPU and GPU have been customised up the wazoo.

marcan42, the hacker says differently! 

Why would AMD go out their way to customize the shit out of the GPU to give anyone a new architecture ? Both of the sub hd twins of current gen had off the shelf PC parts that just added some extra memory not processing compenents like the ati xenos and or disabled disabled ROPS like the nvidia RSX.