Landguy said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Landguy said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Right now I don't think PS4 will outsell Xbone because of the lower price, but rather because Sony seems to be shipping a lot more units worldwide. The price will become a big factor once the consoles become much more readily available. Even the Wii U was doing crazy when it first launched IIRC, but then it flopped. |
I agree with this comment mostly.
Once the fanboys have their systems and the furor of the new release and holiday season pass, the real competition begins. Weh March 1st hits and there is general availability of both consoles, we will see how things shake out. If you watch that basic video of the Demo of the XB1 that is in the other thread, you will see that M$ is going after every person with a tv and internet. They don't want to just get the people who shop at Gamestop or frequent GAF or VGchartz. They want EVERYONE. THey are spending enough money to get the awareness level of the system beyond the "core" gamers.
The argument failure by most here is that the $100 price difference between the PS4 and XB1 will hurt the XB1 after the launch period passes. I agree with that sentiment only in the aspect that it will impact sales to people looking to buy a GAME system only. People looking to buy a media center or a game system that has a media center focus will be inclined to go XB1 just from the media splash. Then, the media splash will also help when more of the Kinect games become available and people can see how improved this whole system is compared to last gen(especially fitness stuff). Family games will drive the system again.
Don't get me wrong, the PS4 is going to sell the best globally without a doubt. But Europe and the US will be decided by your Mom's and Dad's, not the gamers.
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The problem with that viewpoint is actually the price point. Mass market appeal can only really be gained by a low priced console, such as the case with Wii and its casual gaming focus when it launched at only $249.99. A $500 box is only going to be bought by the hardcore enthusiasts.
At such a price, the general public aren't going to buy a console just to be able to control their TV with gesture or easy UI, especially when their smart TVs and other smart devices pretty much do the exact same thing. Perhaps the Xbone could get some mass market attention with Kinect games and a TV focus, but I see that only happening many years down the line when the box has dropped below $299.99. But even then with the advent of so many smart devices which offer casual gaming and TV/Netflix services, it is going to be tough.
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The price point is a problem for the bottom half of the market, but not the top half. If $500 was a proble, there wouldn't be 200 million ipads out there. The average sell price of the ipad is almost $700. The Ipad Mini average is $530.
If the masses are convinced that something is worth it, they will pay and they will do it with s smile on their face.
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This point has been brought up before but the IPad and the Xbox don't serve the same purpose. Yes they have overlapping functionalities, but they aren't exactly the same. Kinect serves more or less like a remote control for your TV (apart from gaming). The actual purpose of the box itself is to play games, and selling $60 games to the casuals on a $500 console is tough now when they are used to playing free games on tablets once they have payed the initial $500-$700. And for a games console, the video game sales are what rake in the cash.
The real challenge I see MS facing is the fact that they risk losing the mid-core. The people who play COD or Madden or AC every year. With the PS4 having the better multiplats and a lot of the early adopters going to the PS4, there is a big chance a lot of these people are going to be dragged over to the PS4 by their friends who adopted the PS4 early and the lower price point. Casuals will come into the equation far later in the cycle.
