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fatslob-:O on 06 November 2013
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Landguy said:
fatslob-:O said:
Landguy said:

I agree totally with the bolded.  These systems are underpowered.  The real problem for both systems longevity is that the tablet/phone market has been doubling or tripling their power every year or less.  If these consoles are going to last 7+ years, smartphones will have eclipsed them by then.  This generation will be much shorter(4-5 yrs) due to the way under powered systems.  Even the PS4 is too weak.  What is more than likely to happen is that game designers/publishers will limit their games dramatically in 2-3 years because they won't want to waste resources for just the PC market.  3-4 years from now, there will be a number of tablets with processors and GPU's that rival the XB1/PS4.  Where will that leave the consoles?  Why buy a console when the same games will be playable from a tablet that you can take anywhere?  Sony/M$ didn't build this next gen with future proof in mind at all.

Tablets won't be matching consoles anytime soon because they have to meet a strict power requirement and much less for a smartphone. This generation is gonna be long because PCs are going to have issues about the latest state of the art technology. Each time that is spent to manufacture smaller transistors gets longer and longer therefore process node transitions are going to get longer and in total the high tech industry won't be brining out more powerful parts anytime soon. BTW the most powerful tablet comes in at around less than 100 gflops! 

What about Surface pro?  I am running almost everything I can download off of steam on it.  It's a tablet.  From Surface pro 1 to Surface Pro 2 there was a significant power increase.  The new A7 chip in the Ipad Air is pretty powerful.  These are specs for 2013.  Next year when those spead double again and the size shrinks again, they will be getting close in basic processing power.  The next logical step for these devices is a more robust GPU.  Once they go that route, it won't be hard to match the XB1/PS4.

OOOPS my mistake. (I guess haven't being following the the portable hardware for very long.) I guess you could say that the surface PRO 2 is decent for the form factor but it barely outs consoles that output around 300 gflops while the intel hd 4400 brings about 50 more glfops in floating point performance. The new A7 just has 1 more powerVR graphics core than the A6. -_- The speed will only double when an application scales well. Actually I wouldn't expect too much from the speed part because having twice the transistors does not exactly mean that a processing component will perform twice as fast. It will be hard for portables to match consoles because you don't realize that they need to have strict power requirements. Die shrinks will usually increase the perofrmance of a GPU by roughly 50% and not double in power as thought. BTW intel hasn't even solved the issues of of trying to imlement process nodes that are smaller than 10nm.