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haxxiy said:
Osc89 said:

That is quite an outdated view. I'll think you'll find that marketing is moving away from the idea of targeting specific genders. One recent example is Toys R Us doing it for their toys: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/toys-r-us-to-stop-marketing-its-toys-by-gender-in-wake-of-sexism-claims-8798959.html

Racism is a broad term, and can refer to people categorised by culture, ethnicity, genetics, geography and lots of other things. Making a generalisation of any nationality is racism.

I don't know whether he was making an absolute statement or not, which is why I said it "can also be seen as sexist" rather than "is sexist".

Maybe I should't direct this at you, but whatever.

Racism and sexism are both umbrella terms with no inherent meaning attached to them whatsoever any longer. The only reason they are used is because one gets the feeling that, whatever they mean, it is something bad. It relates on an emotional, not rational level, and places the user on an imaginary higher moral ground. So by definition you are prancing around calling things sexist purely on an emotional level and barely giving any reason besides a subjective standpoint on how things should be. 

Either way, that sort of social engineering is easily being trumped in the long term by the demographic shift. Like a memetic virus, is inherent falsehood (search youtube for "brainwashing Norway"can't stand the test of time -  take advantage you are already on Youtube and saerch for a few interviews with Eric Kaufmann, or similar scholars of political demography.


I was attempting to use the words racism and sexism in the most literal sense, without attaching any emotion whatsoever. For example, I wouldn't personally think there was anything wrong with creating a Korean MMORPG, but classifying Koreans as MMORPG lovers is technically racism. Also, "male demographic" and "female demographic" are sexist terms, as we are classifying based on gender. But that doesn't mean that what they are describing doesn't exist, or is even neccessarily a bad thing.

The only point I feel I was emotional rather than rational was dismissing his gender-specific requirement for marketing as outdated, as even though I think it is unnecessary and regressive, it is probably still a useful tool.

I checked my replies and I honestly can't see where I am prancing and emotional. I did what I felt was my best in withholding my personal views, and focused on trying to convey the meaning of sexism (which is the point of this thread). I'll check out the videos later; I watched the first couple of minutes of "Brainwashing Norway" and it seemed very interesting.



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