SlayerRondo said:
Osc89 said:
SlayerRondo said:
Fistly, I obviously meant that they were going a subsection of the male demographic, the one's who appreciate sexual appeal in their games. Not all games appeal to everyone and some choose to go for a smaller demographic in exchange for a higher percentage of said demographic.
And yes some men do sometimes want different things from female characters then they do from male characters. I can honestly say a women in a bikini appeals to me more than a man in a pair of swimming trunks, and many men would say the same. Do I always want sexy female characters? No I don't.
If a game company said that they wanted to appeal to the Korean demographic by releasing a new MMORPG over their, would you then say "not all Koreans like MMORPG therefore you are descriminating against Koreans? I guessing you would not start talking in absolutes like you did before.
And the reason why the sexy cosplay sells is not because some women (NOT ALL) want to look scantily clad, but want attention from men who like how they look, or identify with a character that happens to be sexy.
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You clearly referred to "the male demographic" and "the female demographic", so my response was addressing the sexism in those terms. I'm not calling you sexist, I'm just pointing out that those phrases are sexist by definition.
In your MMORPG example, the classification of a "Korean demographic" by the game company is technically racism, as they have divided the Koreans into a group with one particular characteristic.
And I wasn't assuming what women look for in cosplay, I was talking about what Kojima thought women want in cosplay.
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1) The truth is not sexist. Their are differences between what the average male and what the average woman wants from video games and other media. If you worked in a companies marketing department and said that there is no difference in appealing to women and men, you would be fired immediately.
2) I was referring to the Korean nationality to the ethnic group, betraying your obsession with race. People of the Korean nationality have a greater MMORPG culture than other nations and therefore it makes sense to release an MMORPG in that market. Does not mean all Koreans play MMORPG, just more than average.
3) And he is right, some women are looking for skimpy looking cosplay outfits. Are you claiming he was making an absolute statement about what all women want from cosplay?
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That is quite an outdated view. I'll think you'll find that marketing is moving away from the idea of targeting specific genders. One recent example is Toys R Us doing it for their toys: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/toys-r-us-to-stop-marketing-its-toys-by-gender-in-wake-of-sexism-claims-8798959.html
Racism is a broad term, and can refer to people categorised by culture, ethnicity, genetics, geography and lots of other things. Making a generalisation of any nationality is racism.
I don't know whether he was making an absolute statement or not, which is why I said it "can also be seen as sexist" rather than "is sexist".
