Kasz216 said:
SlayerRondo said:
Blackface performances were feeding of the spite that some white people held towards black people because of their own notion of superiority. Blackface appealed to this by degrading black people to create a gap enabling some white people to feel superior. And yes of course some people were entertained by it, if no one was then they would have been unable to do so, and therefore I did not feel the need to specifically mention that fact.
And as to your example, I agree with you 100% and think that if anything having to many over sexualized characters not only takes away from the narrative by being over the top but takes away from the impact that sexy characters or scenes can have. But some people like over the top sexy designs more than normal more realistic one's.
Also in regards to your comparison, despite being more clothed do you not appreciate the women in the picture for their objective characteristics? I mean what do know about their peronalities or individuality? What is the difference in appreciating a sexy character who wears more or less clothes? How can you claim to know the MGS5 character have been objectified as you have not been able to play the game and determine if they failed to provide her with characteristics and individuality beyond her design?
I just don't understand why we can no longer appreciate the objective characteristics that people have, without being accused of disregarding their personality?
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And the oversexulized character designs like in MGS5 feed on men's feelings of superiority towards women and the believe that men are superior and a woman's looks should be based soley on what men find attractive by giving her ridcuilious pointless clothing that doesn't make sense. See also female armour in fantasy.
1) How can we claim to now MGS5 has been objectified without playing it? I already explained this. Do you not read posts fully because you keep asking for stuff that's been already provided.
Previous Kojima works make it more then reasonable to guess that to be the case. If someone has a history of writing of sterotypically racist characters, and you suddenly see a desciription from his next book that takes the notch up to 11... i'd say it's fair to think. "uh oh."
2) You can totally appreciate people physical charactersitics. It's just a matter of doing it in a way that's not objectifying. Aka reducing them to an object. That's what objectifying means. Seriously, actually watch the link earlier.
A character who fights a war in Bikini's and pantyhose is going to be objectified no matter how fleshed out their character is.
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1) I dont like discussing guess work as I believe the developer deserves to be judged on what is not what may be.
2) Yes you can appreciate the physical characteristics without objectifying someone. But when it comes to a picture and a short clip of a character all you have to appreciate is their physical characteristics you cant really do anything but objectify.
And "A character who fights a war in Bikini's and pantyhose is going to be objectified no matter how fleshed out their character is. " is a contradiction. You can't have a fleshed out character and be objectified.
