Sexy and Sexism are not the same thing?

[Osc89]

SlayerRondo said:

Osc89 said:

SlayerRondo said:

But looking at it from the developers view they are probably trying to appeal to the male demographic, which has different taste and preferences to the female demographic and therefore the characters would be treated differently as men don't want to constantly see topless men but skantaly clad women.

While far less games are geared towards women than men, the idea that games cannot aim for a particular demographic is detrimental given the particular and differing demands from video games that you will get from men and women.

If they make a MGS game with topless men and women dressed in full commando gear I would be 100% fine with it and applaud Konami for giving the underappreciated female demographic their due.

Targeting the male demographic is inherently sexist, as you are assuming that all men are looking for the same thing in their games. On top of that, in your example they are assuming that what men are looking for is the female characters to be treated differently from the male charaters, which is another layer of sexism.

The funny thing is, I don't actually think that was what they were going for in this case. Apprently they were doing it for the cosplay, so they are actually targeting women. Of course, that can also be seen as sexist as they are assuming what women look for in cosplay is scantily clad (read objectified) women.

Fistly, I obviously meant that they were going a subsection of the male demographic, the one's who appreciate sexual appeal in their games. Not all games appeal to everyone and some choose to go for a smaller demographic in exchange for a higher percentage of said demographic.

And yes some men do sometimes want different things from female characters then they do from male characters. I can honestly say a women in a bikini appeals to me more than a man in a pair of swimming trunks, and many men would say the same. Do I always want sexy female characters? No I don't.

If a game company said that they wanted to appeal to the Korean demographic by releasing a new MMORPG over their, would you then say "not all Koreans like MMORPG therefore you are descriminating against Koreans? I guessing you would not start talking in absolutes like you did before.

And the reason why the sexy cosplay sells is not because some women (NOT ALL) want to look scantily clad, but want attention from men who like how they look, or identify with a character that happens to be sexy.

You clearly referred to "the male demographic" and "the female demographic", so my response was addressing the sexism in those terms. I'm not calling you sexist, I'm just pointing out that those phrases are sexist by definition.

In your MMORPG example, the classification of a "Korean demographic" by the game company is technically racism, as they have divided the Koreans into a group with one particular characteristic.

And I wasn't assuming what women look for in cosplay, I was talking about what Kojima thought women want in cosplay.