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Pemalite said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

Thanks for the suggestions and yes, this is what I get from the current AMD offer and infos available. If you're right about PS4 and XBOne's APUs TDP, I guess too I'll have to choose a different config, and APU + discrete GPU Hybrid-Crossfire could be the best alternative, more expensive  but also a lot more powerful than my minimum specs. Anyway, I guess I'll have to wait until January to decide, as the 13th November we'll get only half of the infos needed to build a PC witth the newest AMD components and making sure it equal or exceed 8th gen consoles specs. Doing it with existing components would be probably easier, but I want to see what's new in AMD low-power consumption offer, I hate fan noise and high-power with liquid cooling isn't a solution, as, environment considerations aside, electricity is very expensive in Italy, so there's a double incentive to save it.


I hear you on the power thing, Australia's energy prices are even more expensive than Italy's.

With Hybrid Crossfire though, if you're not running a game, the second card generally shuts off. :)
Performance when you need it, power consumption lowered when you don't.

With that in mind though, you could actually save more energy by going with an Intel Core i3 or i5 over AMD's APU's. - AMD's CPU's in comparison are power hogs for the performance you get. - More so with the Core i5, because it's significantly faster and can "hurry up and idle" far sooner.
Plus, you should not need to upgrade it as often either, just drop in a new GPU next time you think you need an upgrade. (Unless you do something CPU heavy like lots of transcoding to multiple devices.)
Drop in a Noctua Air cooler and you would have silence.

You could even do a Mini-ITX build, Intel seems to have a far larger choice of Mini-ITX motherboards these days.

I'm quite a big AMD fan for many reasons: my first PC's chipset, an Intel 430TX, was quite a rip-off, while my first CPU, an AMD k6-166 was very good for its price, and what's more, at that time there still were buggy Pentiums around. Later I had a Duron, quite better than a Celeron for the same price, then an Athlon XP when Intel offered really disappointing P4's, and the current one has a quite power frugal AMD CPU and the HD3300, besides being cool enough to just need passive cooling, was the most powerful onboard GPU in its times. So I'm willing to wait and see what AMD will be able to offer with its new APUs. BTW I believe we need AMD to stay afloat if we want Intel to behave fairly enough, without competition it could become really ruthless...



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