SONY to reveal The PS4 Processor November 13th at AMD APU13

[Alby_da_Wolf]

Pemalite said:

Alby_da_Wolf said:

Also both MS and Sony must have asked AMD in their deals to keep their APUs the hottest ones in their segment at least for the launch and Xmas window.

Nah.
It all comes down to costs, power and die sizes.

Basically, the Xbox One and Playstation 4 have the worst x86 CPU's money can buy, they're tiny and cheap, all the extra transister and power budget is then spent on the GPU.

On the PC however, AMD has a different design philosphy for APU's, basically the CPU and GPU are essentially given more equal treatment in terms of transister counts.
Power wise, PC APU's need to fit into a TDP that ranges from 5-100W, the consoles are probably anywhere from 50-100% higher than 100w TDP if not more. (Remains to be seen.)

You would probably need a couple more die-shrinks and AMD/Board partners to include GDDR5 (A-La Side-Port Memory.) for it to ever be on a level playing field with the consoles APU graphics, DDR4 won't change things for awhile yet.

Basically you *could* buy an APU system, then drop in a discreet Cheap/Mid-range secondary card and enable Hybrid-Crossfire, the second GPU will only initiate when there is a need.
Or you could say "to hell with it" and go AM3 or the faster Intel 1150/2011 Platforms, paired up with a Radeon 7850-7870 for cheap.

Thanks for the suggestions and yes, this is what I get from the current AMD offer and infos available. If you're right about PS4 and XBOne's APUs TDP, I guess too I'll have to choose a different config, and APU + discrete GPU Hybrid-Crossfire could be the best alternative, more expensive  but also a lot more powerful than my minimum specs. Anyway, I guess I'll have to wait until January to decide, as the 13th November we'll get only half of the infos needed to build a PC witth the newest AMD components and making sure it equal or exceed 8th gen consoles specs. Doing it with existing components would be probably easier, but I want to see what's new in AMD low-power consumption offer, I hate fan noise and high-power with liquid cooling isn't a solution, as, environment considerations aside, electricity is very expensive in Italy, so there's a double incentive to save it.