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Forza is a racing game. There are racing games running at 1080/60 on current generation systems. First example that comes to mind is Wipeout HD on the PS3. Racing games are not demanding. To a lesser extent, this applies for fighting games & some sports games also. You will never ever see a demanding AAA FPS or open world title running at 1080/60 on Xbox One, ever. If I am not too bored, I might make a thread later and explain why, with technical details. In short, Xbone doesn't have enough Shaders, enough ROPS, enough bandwidth for the task. Even the PS4 is just barely good enough for 1080/60.

Now regarding the Kinect. Sorry, we don't want it, it sucks. A camera watching me while I am playing video games, serves no purpose. Motion gaming is a fad. And the fact that Microsoft crippled their hardware budget, to include that overpriced & overengineered camera in the box for 500 dollars, makes me even more angry.