| gamingdevil said: So if the whole point of existence is to pass on your genes why don't we just live like animals in the jungle and have sex with whoever we want? Why do we have love feelings? Rickthestick2 if God punish gay people to hell then why make them gay in the first place? I don't think you are given a choice of being gay/straight/bi, you can't say "when i grow up i'll become gay!", it's not something you can choose. The possibilities are two.
1) You get born that way or 2) Your sexuality is based on your childhood experiences and in both of these you are not the one who's to blame so it would be unfair of God to punish you in hell.
Just my opinion though... |
1 things wrong here. God doesn't make people gay. You do have a choice, and thats the main arguement here. How is it that you don't have a choice? Does that even make sense? If you want to be gay you can, if you want to be straight you can. If you want to quit drugs you can, if you want to do drugs you can. (I'm not comparing gayness to drugs mind you all).
People have a choice. It is that choice in which i strongly disagree with. I'm not going to hate you for making that choice, but i will try my best to change your minds. I'm not just going to say, "Oh well that's you life and not mine" simply because i'm a Christian, and I can't let people make that choice. I'm not going to say "OMG your gay, i hate you go to hell" because i'm a Christian and i cannot have that hate.
Now on to j9113712:
"Wait, what?? I'm a christian.. I was born into a highly religious family.. I went to a Seventh-day adventist school (which is like one of the most strictest christian religions) from Kindergarten to sixth grade. And just a normal christian school for 7th grade. And growing up I always went to bible camps, and I always went to church, and in fact I even go about twice a week currently with my aunt."
This is probably the biggest thing i have with people. None of the things you said makes you a Christian. And if you think you a Christian because of this then your sorely mistaken. In fact, based on what your saying your not a Christian at all. You go against God, not by being gay, that's sin, everybody sins, but you go against God by trying to prove to me, another Christian (and everyone else) that its right to be gay. This is why people bash Christians so much. They don't know what a Christian is, and niether do you. These thoughts are Hell-bound, not because your gay, but because your gay in the name of the lord by calling your self a Christian.
"I'm gay, and there's no way in hell I had a "God-given right to choose".. that's completely absurd. Were you able to chose your sexual orientation? I knew I was gay since I was about 9 years old. Do you think I chose that?? Hell no, for years and years I did not accept myself, especially from all the stuff that was always said about gay people growing up in a religious family. Obviously you can’t choose to be gay, or else there would be no such thing as gay people. Why would a normal heterosexual guy just "choose" to be attracted to guys if he really just was heterosexual. You can’t chose who you’re attracted to or who you love. The bible even says that you were in God’s care even before you were born. And there's no way any gay person would ever tell you that they just wanted to be that way.. does that make any sense??"
Yes. you chose to accept it. You gave up and admitted to yourself that your gay. You did not fight. You just said your gay and you are, not becuase you are forced that way, because nothing's forcing you to be gay, but because you accept that from yourself, and you are rightfully proud within yourself. You don't start out gay or straight. You start out as you, and later you become more of yourself. You are influenced by your surroundings true. but you still are you. Don't blame anything but yourself for being gay. That's a dumb arguement. Does a gay person not want to be gay? If that's true then that's pure mental weakness. They need help them, to fight such a thing. Its below natural instincts. Its Sin. Plaese understand.
I'm sorry, i would post more about your thoughts, but it is long and has a lack of paragraphs so i will try again later. Simply put though, being gay is a sin, and to say otherwise is heretic. That's simple. There a re very few Christians in the world. Most just say they are, but a rehell-bound. The problem with christianity is the christians, (the so called ones). So i'll tell you all here now. To think gay is right, is to think against God's "gay is wrong". Therefore, you declare indirectly your knowlege against God's. Don't tell me that Gay is OK (if you call yourself a Christian) and dont you dare talk to me about love. Love isn't about mating at all. SO what you were saying to me at the end of your post was foolish to me. Love is about people, and I love you even though i don't know who you are, so please, here's your choice:
1. Believe Me, and read the bible for yourself and maybe you'll really see.
2. Disregard my "tyrannical faith" and curse "my tyrannical God" for the god you serve.
But if you pick 2, just understand that the God you may be serving is weak. My God is both Just and Merciful. He is both Righteous and Kind. If he were to kill all sinners he would not be wrong, but he would not be God. If he were to bring all the people who ever lived into heaven he would not be wrong but then, he would not be God. Most people don't know God, and most people don't know a Christian.
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