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Darth Tigris on 31 October 2013
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Raven722 said:
Goatseye said:
Well the market and the consumers of their product can talk with their wallet or go to appropriate forums to talk about it.

All I've seen from some folks is troll and that's it. No constructive comment or anything informative were brought out to justify juvenile behavior on every media outlet.

MS simply had a different vision for X1. I was up in arms with the initial reveal also because I like to travel and I would want to bring my X1 with me outside of the 13 allowed countries.I'm an Xbox division customer but I didn't start stamping #dealwithit on every internet page. It was mostly not MS customers that did that.

It wasn't because of the tamper tantrum that MS changed their minds but the pre-order numbers spoke louder than some bullies on Youtube and every other gaming website.

And since the reverse of policies, MS has seen a steady grow on their pre-order numbers and relationship w/ consumers. Same with W8. Due to a smart way to talk to business institutions.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to constructively talk about it? Like I said. It works both aways. How many times has someone tried to talk about a shortcoming of the X1 and MS where someone immediately jumped their shit and defended MS as if it was their own mother and someone just called her a whore?

I understand that works the same for Sony but let's look at it this way. How many times has Sony made themselves look stupid compared to Microsoft? Which one of them has been consistent in its message and not try to bullshit its consumers? Which one of them came out right from the start and made it all about the gamers? The thing is, quite simply, that Sony has played this all so well that you really do have to grasp in order to try to find negativity. I'm not saying it doesn't exist but what is there is not as substantial as it has been for Team Green.

Meanwhile, MS's mouthpieces keep adding fuel to a fire that could have died a long time ago. Nelson... that guy just needs to shut the hell up. Seriously. A gag order needs to be issued on him. You're right. It wasn't internet temper tantrums that lead to changes. It was indeed pre-order numbers. Why were those pre-orders low? Internet temper tantrums that got the information out to millions of people in no time. It is quite effective to be loud about such things over the net. It is the most powerful communication and information sharing tool, obviously. Get even one person to find the dirt and suddenly the world knows about it.

Yes, Microsoft has seen some nice growth but they are also nowhere near out of the woods. I don't begrudge you for your choice. Nor any other person who decided to go to Xbox. I'm just not personally thrilled with how they've handled things.

Wow.  Where were you last gen when the PS3 pre and post launch were far worse than anything that MS has done so far ...?