Pemalite said:
Daisuke72 said:
PC Gamers also have to deal with shitty ports, bad drivers, late ports, and other technical errors. They also have to deal with the inevitablle GPU, CPU, and even motherboard upgrades. ]?
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Have you even used a PC for gaming since the mid 1990's? PC's today are far more reliable than they have ever been previously, my PC is already a couple years old with the hardware in it right now and it's never had "technical errors" - It's also faster than the Playstation 4, Xbox One, Wii U, Wii, Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, combined.
On the flip side, you also have access to the largest repository of information known to man-kind, even my grandmother uses it to learn new things, it's called Google.
As for upgrades, sure you have to upgrade the GPU sometimes, maybe every 4+ years a Radeon 5870 is still very capable even today.
But the CPU and Motherboard can last much longer than that. - A Core 2 Quad Q6600 for instance, is still very capable of playing pretty much every game out today, that's despite it being released 6 years ago and it probably has another few years of life left in it yet, thanks to the consoles anemic processors.
Daisuke72 said:
Also in your post you're tacking on shit such as extra controllers to add to the cost of the console, really? Odds are you're gonna buy a remote for your PC, and a PC comparable to the PS4 is $800 or more upfront. So if you factor in all of the games and such, with newer releases PC games DON'T go under $30 unless it's a true bomba. Sure you can buy a ton of $2 games and so forth, but I can go to gamestop and buy used games for $2 - $5. Know why? Because those games are either old, or aren't that valuable. You can trade in your console games for others as well, I have 40 PS3 games and have only spent around $800 for all of my games, including my PS+ subs thanks to deals on PSN and used games.
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Remote for my PC? What is this? 2001? Everyone has a Smartphone these days, be it Windows Phone, Android or iOS, there are apps which allows you to use your smartphone as a controller for media functionality if you so wish.
Keyboards and Mice combo's can be had for under $10.
Lets take a look at game prices then shall we?
Battlefield 4 is $100 to Pre-order on Xbox One and Playstation 4 here.
On PC it's $90, both at EB Games.
Simple mathematics shows it's a $10 difference, some games the difference is larger sometimes.
Daisuke72 said:
Hell with PS+ for $60 you're annually getting a value better than any $60 spent on PC after you take in account the games your getting, and how valuable they are in comparison to shit on Steam that costs $1 - $5.
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You're paying $60 rent games, they aren't free.
Steam however is free, you also get free games.
There are also plenty of free games that aren't on Steam.
It's literally 100% free, there are no bait and switch tactics, nothing you have to purchase to access it all.
HOW can something that costs actuall money be better value than something that is 100% free? Seriously, you get more for your money with free.
Daisuke72 said:
The PC has more games, yes, better exclusives? Fuck no. The only PC exclusives worth playing are MOBA's and some MMO's in my opinion.
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This is where you completely loose the argument, it's all opinion not fact.
Whether exclusives are worth playing all comes down to personal opinion.
I would take a PC game that actually has decent and indepth gameplay over the quick-time riddled console games like uncharted. (LADDERS WTF)
You obviously prefer the opposite.
Daisuke72 said:
Show me some PC exclusives that would make a casual gamer want a PC?
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Knock yourself out.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=List+of+every+PC+exclusive+game
But seriously, you want casual? Doesn't get anymore than Casual than The Sims.
Show me a Playstation or Xbox franchise that has outsold the casual game "The Sims" with 150 million copies sold in the entire franchise, go ahead, I dare ye'.
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And I will spend less money on my PS4 and Wii U and all of it's games for the same price of your hardware alone, and will have just as much fun as you, your point? If I spent $1,000 worth of GPU's alone than I'd want it to be pretty damn powerful as well. "Never" had technical errors, "never"? Pretty sure that's a stretch but let's not dwell on that.
But you're trying to match the PS4's value and that comes at a cost, simple and plain, and with the new system requirements fo next gen unless you already had a gaming PC of some sorts, you're pretty much forced to upgrade, and this is just the beginning of this gen.
Wow, you saved a total of $10. Now if you only bought 340 more games then you might break even with the cost of a console, for your hardware alone that costed over 3K. Such value.
Remote, I meant it as in buying a Xbox 360 remote to game on PC, since alot of PC Gamers take that over keyboard and mouse, which I detest but let's not go there.
lol are you seriously comparing F2P games as better values than AAA Games? You tacked on the yearly sub fees when calculating the price, so I simplt added the perks, sure you're renting them, but since it's a neccessity according to your assessment, why does it matter?
Uncharted doesn't use ladders, that was TLOU btw, and it shits on every PC exclusive that you enjoy, which is...the Sims? I could've sworn the Sims were on Consoles as well, I could've sworn that the Sims is a series and it's total sales are calculated as such, since what, the 90s? Meanwhile CoD sells 20 million a year, and the current pace it'll outsell the sims.
Also, like you said it's all opinion not facts, right? Yet PC being the best way to game was presented as a fact by you, warrented by shitty free to play games and the thought of MAYBE breaking even with your hardware investment?
Also most of your points applies to enthusiats, who don't care for saving money in the first place on consoles, seeing as most steam users, well 3 out of 4 steam users PC's aren't up to par with next gen's, fuck I have steam installed on my laptop which packs a HD 3200, know why? Because I do enjoy casually playing some MOBAs on my comp. Hell, I play MOBA's for hours at a time, does that make me apart of the PC Gaming race?
lol @ random poster above me quoting a random comment that's fake as fuck. DR3 confirmed scaling resolution so that alone makes the statement false, the titanfall part is laughable.
