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Pemalite said:
9087 said:
Pemalite said:
9087 said:
PS4 has superior GPU, CPU, Shaders, and RAM....

Its significantly more powerful than Xbox One


PS4 has an inferior GPU, CPU, Shaders and Ram compared to the PC.


PC is more expensive, less people play on PC, and doesnt have Sony 1st party exclusives.

 

Nice try. 

The funny part is that PS4 is cheaper than Xbox One, while still being more powerful. Thats the crazy thing. 


So, you loose the power argument so you move onto cost and player counts?

Nice try. I came well equipped for this battle of intellect!

For starters, the PC is cheaper over time, especially if you purchase allot of games, games are typically $10-$20 cheaper, thus if you buy allot of games you could potentially save thousands.
Plus the Xbox One and Playstation 4 you have to pay to even do basic tasks such as Multi-player gaming, over the life of the console, you could save hundreds by gaming on the PC.
Over 5 years I've spent roughly $250 just for online access on my Xbox 360.

Lets not forget you still need to buy controllers and other accessories too which adds to the entire cost of a console.
Considering each Xbox 360 controller would set you back roughly $40 AUD, that's $120 extra.

So just for 5 years online, controllers and the console itself you're looking at roughly almost $900.
If I were to include the several hundred games I have on Steam, I've probably saved a few grand... You do the math.
If you can't build a PC for that, then you're doing it wrong.

Now about less people playing on PC? That's a funny statement.
More people alone play League of Legends on PC than exists Xbox Live Gold users or PSN+ users.
More copies of Minecraft have sold on PC than any other platform.
World of WarCraft, again PC exclusive is the worlds most profitable game.
Outside of Nintendo's exclusives, The Sims is the best selling franchise of all time with over 150 million copies sold on the PC.
Steam has almost 60 million users, that's very competitive to Sony and Microsoft's endevours in the console space.
Origin has over 50 million users.
The PC's combined video game revenue is actualy 30% larger than the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 combined as it is a 20 billion dollar market, whilst the HD twins is a 15.5 Billion dollar market.
The PC literally invents all the technology that goes in the Playstation and Xbox, that's Billions worth of Research and Development, paid for by PC gamers, no PC? No next generation or current generation consoles as they are today, the alternative would be a custom SOC or one based upon ARM, but the performance would be lacking.
The PC has more games than what exists on the Xbox 360 and Playstation 4 combined.
The PC has more exclusives than the Xbox 360 and Playstation 4 combined, several decades worth of game releases being backwards compatible does that to a platform.

The only argument that holds any weight is the PC doesn't get Playstation exclusives, but then again the Playstation 4 doesn't get any other platforms exclusives either, they're exclusive for a reason.
Converesly, unlike other platforms the PC is bound to emulate the consoles eventually anyway, bringing all those exclusives over to the PC gaming master race.


PC Gamers also have to deal with shitty ports, bad drivers, late ports, and other technical errors. They also have to deal with the inevitablle GPU, CPU, and even motherboard upgrades. ]?

 

Also in your post you're tacking on shit such as extra controllers to add to the cost of the console, really? Odds are you're gonna buy a remote for your PC, and a PC comparable to the PS4 is $800 or more upfront. So if you factor in all of the games and such, with newer releases PC games DON'T go under $30 unless it's a true bomba. Sure you can buy a ton of $2 games and so forth, but I can go to gamestop and buy used games for $2 - $5. Know why? Because those games are either old, or aren't that valuable. You can trade in your console games for others as well, I have 40 PS3 games and have only spent around $800 for all of my games, including my PS+ subs thanks to deals on PSN and used games.

 

Hell with PS+ for $60 you're annually getting a value better than any $60 spent on PC after you take in account the games your getting, and how valuable they are in comparison to shit on Steam that costs $1 - $5. Just saying, and pretending that consoles don't get great digital deals is astonishing to me. Really, the ONLY way you're saving money on PC is if you buy a TON of new games frequently, even then if you're buying them on PC you're only saving $20 tops. Maybe more if it's not that good. 

PS4 with 6 year PS+ sub is $700. Seeing as PS+ adds about 3 games a month PLUS discounts and access to betas over six years I'd have over 200 games,  all for $300, $1.50 for a game. Of course I could never hold these games unless I bought a 2TB HDD or something but the point still stands. PC is not a better value than consoles, and quite frankly I'm tired of it getting spouted, I own a modern PC with a mid-range card(thanks to the good old master race proproganda bullshit you're spouting.)

And most of your statistics are utterly useless. MOBA games are cultural phenomenoms in south korea, it doesn't make PC gaming better that a ton of people play FREE games on a device they ALREADY HAVE on pretty much any PC made in the past TEN years. 

The PC has more games, yes, better exclusives? Fuck no. The only PC exclusives worth playing are MOBA's and some MMO's in my opinion. Show me some PC exclusives that would make a casual gamer want a PC? Fact is, no matter how much faith you put into your PC, casuals won't find it appealing due to the fact that their friends play on consoles, and consoles are easier to use and a better long term investment, fuck I personally know people in real life who play on Xbox who don't even know about PC gaming outside of flash browser games and MMO's.

 

The only thing I like about PC gaming is IndieDB and game mods...and the visuals. But calling it a better value is a fucking myth that I'm tired of seeing.