PS4 to cost $520 and XBOX ONE $620...

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outlawauron said:

cbarroso09 said:

Torillian said:
Don't you think there's a difference between the MS and Sony situations in which you can install 10 or more games until you have to manage things versus he WiiU situation where you have 4 gigs once you factor in that initial update?

Seems like false equivalence to me.

No really, Wii U doesn't need obligatory installation. Yet, Wii U final price with the external hard drive is way bellow the PS4 with 1 one game and the online subscription. People said the $399 was the nail in the coffin, yet it is not the real cost of the console. 

You're having a lot of trouble seeing the fact people find there's more value in one package than the other package.

$400 is the real cost of the console. You don't need to get any of the other things, and the optional PS+ is another thing that people want to pay because of all the games that come along with it.

Not exactly. I will need PS+ to play online. I will need a game that isnt included. I will need the camera to get full functionality.

Here they do have a valid point and you are pulling up nonsense in order to dismiss it. A console with nothing to play is pretty useless so to claim you dont need anything else is a bit silly and honestly shows their point is so valid, you cant find a reasonable argument against it