| Shinobi-san said: I am speaking about the base price of the consoles. When Sony and MS speak about losses/margins etc. they are talking about the officially released price. We dont know what the margins is on the 450 bundle. |
That helps because im talking about both models. $400 is the entry fee but with a $50 increase it would be a $450 entry fee of course.
Anyways I would assume that the loss is about the same with the camera included though I dont know that for a fact.







