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Sleepyprince said:
Tom3k said:
Sleepyprince said:

Yeah, but we're not speaking about Fez here, that's still an average plateformer sold at 50$. Wake up mate. Plateformer, oustide of the plumber are dead and can't compete with the rest. Lauch price should have been be way lower than that. 

A clue about what a mainstream gamer is : Someone with some economic sens, someone who won't throw 50$ on a colorful plateformer.   

But will throw 50$ at a new maps pack every year, and 50$ more for a "premium"... Great economic sense indeed...

What the fuck are you talking about, don't tell me you just used the "you must be a call of duty fan if you didn't like my game" type of thing... YES YOU DID. Never touched a call of in my whole life, the only fps I bought and played was mercenary... And I find GTA way too stupid. Your logic failed mate =/.

Like I said, a mainstream gamer would just buy what he thinks is good. He may be wrong, but at least, he's not a fan boy and he doesn't jump in the hype wagon each time he see a cg trailer. The game looks correct, you buy it. Game does not appeal you, you don't buy it. That's all. That's how a good portion of the mass react, that's how I react. 

Same goes for Rayman. Some see the best plateformer of all time ( Fez, Dustforce, Braid don't exist), one of the best, or stellar game that should have sold billion. As a mainstream consumer I see an average simple go-left-to-right and jump-on-things plateformer with good graphics. I bought better plateformer for 10 bucks, I won't buy Rayman Origins for more. And it isn't worth more. I bought it 10 dollars. That's just economic sens. The game sold poorly, screw ubisoft, that's their fault. Smaller team, with smaller budget already made better. Fez was almost done by one guy alone. Supermeat boy was made by two guys in their garage.

My logic was actually spot on, what failed was your understanding of word "mainstream"... Mainstream gamer is a soulless, opinionless creature governed by mainstream trends. He doesn't buy what's good or what he thinks is good, he buys what's popular, or what majority buys. He has no sense of indviduality. And right now the "popular games" are COD, GTA, Halo etc...

People that play or have played Fez, Dustforce, Braid, Limbo, Super Meat Boy, Thomas Was Alone... are rarelly mainstream gamers... Unless the game becomes an "mainstream trend", like Minecraft did.