akuma587 said:
Sqrl said:
You really need to examine your own sources. First of all you sited 4 government sources with this line: "If you google the topic you are going to get a bunch of websites that claim what you are saying... they are lying or wrong. This is the UN, the IPCC, the US government, and PNAS (the official science Journal of the UN)."
So the UN (political body), IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change...a committee that is part of a political body) , US government (political body), and PNAS(the science journal of a political body) all have no political agenda then? Truthfully your entire post boiled down to claiming I was wrong and provided nothing in the way of an argument but instead providing links to a bunch of sites with political ties..ironically the numbers I cited are built from numbers aspoused by groups like the ones you cited. As for the signatories on the Kyoto Protocol, the reason those developing nations are signing up is because the Kyoto protocol is built as a global socialist program. The developing nations without huge emissions are able to sell their carbon credits to large nations like the US who would have to purchase them to avoid massive fines. In short its a huge boon for those countries not a hinderence. |
At least he provided information. |
He did? All I saw were links to site's with a vested poltical interest in seeing that they get the outcome they want.
I don't even know why I bother some times. You show people that even by their own numbers in a scenario 10x worse than is realistic they are still flat wrong and they just ignore it. They don't even bother to refute the numbers they just ignore it.
You know what, I've gone through this discussion before on this site and I really don't feel the need to go through it again. The last debate I had was against Final-Fan and quite frankly nobody here has proven themselves to be even a fraction as knowledgable about or capable of debating the issue as he was.
