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dsgrue3 on 17 October 2013
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Whitefire said:
dsgrue3 said:

Natural selection is vital to evolution. This is in stark contrast to "God creates each and every human" as is the case with creationists.

They are all wonderful examples of evolution. You've demonstrated that you simply don't know what evolution is.

"Lizards are still lizards, moths are still moths" - this is hilarious stuff. Primates are still primates. Can apes procreate with chimps? Can bonobos procreate with chimps? Can humans procreate with apes?

If they can't they are an entirely different species. You realize lizard is an overarching group, yes? There are many different species of lizard.

Another fundamental error - micro evolution leads to macro evolution. When enough micro evolution occurs making the new group unable to procreate with its ancestral group, that's when you have a new species. 

So by admitting microevolution, you admit macroevolution and evolution itself. Game Over.

 

There is no proof that micro evolution leads to macro. You will just post more unobservable ideas of how it could. I bolded the last part because you couldn't be farther from the truth. Macro is not micro yet you are trying to spin it so. I want proof that when the Bible says that animals will reporoduce after it's kind that it is false.

Of course there is none and you have only shown me micro evolution which I have already said creationists believe.

Don't try to spin your opinons as fact. It is a fact there is no proof for a chance of kinds, I'm not lying to you. You are trying ot trap me in an invisible corner. Also no matter how vital Natural Selection is to evolution it can't be evolution. You believe in Evolution through Natual selection yes? A change in traits that lead to a bigger change overall? I only believe in Natual Selection a change in traits. It's that cut and dry, really. Don't spin that.

Your opinion has no impact upon fact. Fact > your opinion.

Berkeley

"Microevolution happens on a small scale (within a single population), while macroevolution happens on a scale that transcends the boundaries of a single species. Despite their differences, evolution at both of these levels relies on the same, established mechanisms of evolutionary change."

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evoscales_01

Wikipedia

"Microevolution over time may lead to speciation or the appearance of novel structure, sometimes classified as macroevolution.[2] Contrary to claims by creationists however, macro and microevolution describe fundamentally identical processes on different time scales.[2][3]"

Sources:

Futuyma, Douglas (1998). Evolutionary Biology. Sinauer Associates.

edited by Scott, Eugenie C.; Branch, Glenn (2006). Not in our classrooms : why intelligent design is wrong for our schools (1st ed.). Boston: Beacon Press. p. 47. ISBN 0807032786.

Shout all you want, man. Your opinion is simply flat out wrong.