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dsgrue3 said:
Whitefire said:
dsgrue3 said:

Natural Selection isn't part of evolution? Go back to school.

Fossil record isn't needed, like I've said several times in this thread. It simply is an easy way to demonstrate similarities between creatures without a degree in genetics/biology.

Creationists have 0 positive evidence. That's why no one takes them seriously. You do understand that, right? 

Examples of evolution happening:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080421-lizard-evolution.html

http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

Start reading.

Natural selection is about inheriting traits. Which is different of what I am trying to say. All of the links you gave me haven't shown me proof of Dawinian Evolution. Which is an animal turning into another animal. These Lizards are still lizards, and the moths are still moths, just different. Which is how we get different species, which is what creationsists believe. What creationsists don't believe is that those lizards won't become birds anytime soon.

 

Like I said true Evolution won't be proven anytime soon, if ever.

Natural selection is vital to evolution. This is in stark contrast to "God creates each and every human" as is the case with creationists.

They are all wonderful examples of evolution. You've demonstrated that you simply don't know what evolution is.

"Lizards are still lizards, moths are still moths" - this is hilarious stuff. Primates are still primates. Can apes procreate with chimps? Can bonobos procreate with chimps? Can humans procreate with apes?

If they can't they are an entirely different species. You realize lizard is an overarching group, yes? There are many different species of lizard.

Another fundamental error - micro evolution leads to macro evolution. When enough micro evolution occurs making the new group unable to procreate with its ancestral group, that's when you have a new species. 

So by admitting microevolution, you admit macroevolution and evolution itself. Game Over.

 

There is no proof that micro evolution leads to macro. You will just post more unobservable ideas of how it could. I bolded the last part because you couldn't be farther from the truth. Macro is not micro yet you are trying to spin it so. I want proof that when the Bible says that animals will reporoduce after it's kind that it is false.

Of course there is none and you have only shown me micro evolution which I have already said creationists believe.

Don't try to spin your opinons as fact. It is a fact there is no proof for a chance of kinds, I'm not lying to you. You are trying ot trap me in an invisible corner. Also no matter how vital Natural Selection is to evolution it can't be evolution. You believe in Evolution through Natual selection yes? A change in traits that lead to a bigger change overall? I only believe in Natual Selection a change in traits. It's that cut and dry, really. Don't spin that.