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JWeinCom on 14 October 2013
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Screamapillar said:
dsgrue3 said:
Screamapillar said:
dsgrue3 said:

So what's the problem folks? Is it poorly educated masses, indoctrination, parents, scientific failure?


There's no way for you or I, or anyone else, to know whether or not God is the being/ deity/ whatever who caused everything that exists to come into existence.  For all we know, God might be responsible for what is our limited human theory of evolution.  For all we know, God doesn't exist and things just randomly occur.  The point is, we don't know.

I don't think it's accurate or fair to paint a group of people as being ignorant simply because you don't believe what they believe. 

None of us have all the answers.  None of us have even a fraction of the answers.  There is a lot that we as humans still don't know.  Part of humanity is learning new things and continuing to grow and develop our knowledge.

I think there has been a misunderstanding in here that is pervasive.

This is strictly about evolution vs creationism. Not creationism vs science.

Evolution - abundance of evidence. Creationism - Zilch. And it is in this respect that I speak ill of the proposition. 


Alright, let me rephrase, in order to further this dicussion instead of spinning wheels.

You speak of creationism and the theory of evolution as if they are these ironclad rulesets that are set in stone.  Neither of them are, though.  Evolution is still a working theory, and yes it may be the closest thing we have to a full answer, but still yet it is far from a full answer.  Creationism does not mean that you do not believe in evolution.  One belief or ideal, whatever you want to call it, does not cancel out the other.  You can be a "Creationist" so to speak and believe that God (whatever God is or isn't) is responsible for causing evolution to exist in the first place.  Just as easily as you could say that you believe soundly in the theory of evolution, and that there isn't such thing as God or any higher power, and that things in the universe simply occured and continue to occur according to nothing more than random events and collisions. 

These ideas, I argue, are by no means incompatible with one another.  Further, most major world religions say nothing to discourage scientific discovery or lay disdain for the idea of evolution.  Quite the contrary.

Major religions don't try to discourage scientific discovery?  Tell that to Darwin and Gallelio (sp?).