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dsgrue3 on 14 October 2013
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BasilZero said:
dsgrue3 said:

The problem is the beliefs are a product of ignorance, not a product of rational argument or evidence-based conclusions.

Sure if you say it only impacts that individual it isn't an issue. But let's say that individual is a politician, a senator/representative/president, etc then I'm sure you can see how this world view impacts their policies. Then you consider their offspring and people over whom they have much influence and you see a snowball effect. 

It isn't their personal belief that offends me, it's the impact on others such a belief has. It makes it okay for this type of magical thinking that isn't based upon anything to occur. I pity those who refuse to embrace reality and simply choose a school of wishful thinking and willfull ignorance. 

Dat anger at religious people l0l

So to summarize your response:

"I hate religion and I hate religious folks because they think differently from me"

Whoo boy, kk have a nice day.

Anyways I'll just leave this last bit for you before departing from this thread : Just because they think differently from you doesnt mean they are ignorant or foolish - it is their personal belief and not sure why you would get upset over other people's beliefs.  Also if you think Religion has a bigger sway over a person's political decisions than Racial Issues and Money/Economics - then I'm not sure what else to tell you lol.

It's as if you read my response but ignored almost the entire thing in order to strawman it.

Listen, it isn't about having different beliefs. Different beliefs are fine - you can like fat women, I don't. See, that's a difference of opinion or belief. But that's subjective. Objective reality exists and science has been the best way of confirming what is real and what isn't. There is a reason schizophrenics are locked away in the mental ward and it isn't that they have a different opinion - there is something wrong with them. Science gives us that type of information.

So what you have people claiming their belief is true without evidence, that's problematic. You don't think sasquatches exist because it lacks evidence, right? And you think those people are very odd and silly...it's the same with religion. You don't get a free pass simply because it's popular. 

@Bold

Again you misrepresent my position on that. I said it has impact, not it is the sole or omnipotent reason.