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landguy1 said:
Xenostar said:
landguy1 said:
Xenostar said:
Zappykins said:

It's not really the same.  The Xbox 360 was designed to work without a hard drive - they were still relatively pricey back then.  And ALL games (until the last year when it was loosened with Halo4 and GTAV) were required to be able to run on the DVD alone.

Every command is designed to work with voice on the Xbox One.  And this is a good improvement.  As I can do 99% of browsing and app with my voice, but the rare thing that pops up where I need a controller is annoying.  As I am often doing things, working, moving around and don’t have my hands free.

With all due respect, since you seem to dismiss Kinect so much, I have to ask, then why are you always in the threads? Why not just laugh with you see one and think "ha ha, those XBoners are going to be so miserable. tee hee"

 

I know you think it will flop.  So let it flop if that is what is going to happen.  You can not make it flop by posting, 'It's useless and will flop.' The postings makes it looks like the fear is if it does succeed, it will succeed big.

 

 

Also, if you would like to come over and play with my Xbox 360 and Kinect I would be happy to show you some fun things.  I think there is much you don’t even realize it can do. 

Oh, and here is some Ice Cream for you; I hope you like green tea:

 


X1 is designed to work without kinect, you can unplug it completley its launching in countries that dont support there languages, and i will guarantee you flag ship titles like halo will work without kinect, they didnt work without a hard drive!

I dismiss Kinect because i like games, i want to play Titan Fall, the next Gears of war and so on. These titles wont be any better for kinect they just make the console more expensive for me. 

Kinect is a peripheral it is not X1. It does minor gimmiks in games i dont want and it does menu navigation that im sure i will cope using a pad for instead, ive been doing it for 30 years with a pad, it might be easier to launch a game with kinect BUT i can cope with pressing A on the Pad, i will have to be holding the pad to play the game anyway. 

I am very interested in how people can come to the conclusion that the XB1 has been designed to work without the Kinect.  Just like my car was designed to work without the instrument panel working.  Sure, I can turn on the car and drive it to where I am going.  I might get a speeding ticket or run out of gas, but it will still do it's primary function.  So, you are right, the XB1 is capable of not using the Kinect. 

Based on your interest in only playing games, I suggest that you buy a 360 or PS3.  Both the PS4 and XB1 are way overpowered and capable to just play games.  Lots of wasted capabilities that you needn't pay for.  They are also much cheaper, and that seems be a driving factor in your determination.

Unfortunately for you, you find the purpose of the design of XB1 to be a gimmick and useless to you.  If you feel you must play next gen games, get a PS4 and you won't have as much unneeded capabilities.


im stunned you cant get your head rounnd it, your example is terrible, theres is no major function on the Xone that cant be accessed without kinect.

I want to play the next gen games including the exclusives, im getting a ps4 first as its cheaper and more than likley will have the better versions of multiplats in terms of performance, but i do want an XOne for its exclusives down the line.

Body motion tracking wont play any part in the types of games i like to play. Voice control will never take off mainstream in games certainly not this gen, too many languages and accents to support so devs will never risk doing anything major on that. 

You make me laugh that you even suggest there over powered for games, there is NOTHING not a single thing that they will ever run that will require more power than the games running on them.

So instead of the worlds worst analogies try listing actual features that GAMERS will miss by not plugging in there kinects.

Don't assume that i don't understand your point just because i disagree with you.  I think you need to try to get your head around that.

If my analogy is so bad, give me an axample of something you can't do in your car that the instrument panel stops you from doing?  If you understood the analogy, then you wouldn't have said it it was bad.  No one is ever going to say that the XB1 can't be operated without Kinect.  My analogy clearly states that a car can be driven without an instrument panel.  Like the Kinect does to the XB1, the instrument panel adds functionality and convenience to the car.  I drive my car all the time without ever looking at the instrument panel without any problems.  You can use the XB1 without the Kinect and have no problems.  The Kinect is a feature of the XB1, not just an accessory.  If you don't want the kinect, don't get the XB1.  You aren't demanding that Sony remove the hardware associated with the move technology are you?  Have you demanded that SOny removes the software too?  How about either the ethernet jack/wifi(whichever you deem useless)?  What about the 8 gigs of ram(wasn't really needed yet)? 

What you really want is a console with only the parts that fit YOU.  The PS4 and XB1 are designed to play games.  They are both designed to do many other things too.  What you want is to make blanket statements(see bolded in your comment) about your particular needs as if they fit everyone.  What's funny is that how many people said the same BS back when the PS2 launched.  "why can't it be cheaper?" or  "It's cheaper if it didn't have DVD"  Then the PS3 came out and the same BS "why can't it be cheaper?" or "It's cheaper if it didn't have bluray".  The designers of the systems aren't just looking at the ability to play games, as the hardware to do so now enables them to create whole new capabilities by putting a few more things built in from the word go.  No one is telling you to like every feature on each gaming system, that's why there are 3 main consoles to choose from. Pick the one that fits you.  Your the one who wants all of the games from every console(me too), then live with the features that have no interest to you.

The people complaining about the Kinect part of XB1 need to get their head around the fact that it was a design choice to make that part of the system.

 

The things you suggest removing are pretty damn vital, an extremley expensive peripheral that has almost no functions in games is not vital.

If you get my point of view, why cant you get that a kinectless XOne is easily a possibility.

Being able to see your speedo is integral to not breaking the law, seeing your fuel gauge is integral to not breaking down, again i ask whats the integral part of having kinect when it comes to playing games. 

If it never went kinectless i would still get one eventually, but wed be talking much further down the line than if they offered a cheaper model without it sooner.