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kirby007 said:
fatslob-:O said:
fallen said:
RenCutypoison said:
fallen said:

X1:

e) 1.75 ghz Jaguar (Plus SHAPE audio chip likely ~1 CPU core of audio processing, +cloud support which we will ignore for now but could offload things like AI from X1 CPU in the future)

 

Reading shit again.

Saying cloud support on hardware side is stupid. PS4 and Wii U are connected to the internet too.

Can you point me to where Sony and (LOL) Nintendo execs mention their array of servers set up and offered to developers to help their consoles?

 

That's really the difference here. MS has their Azure cloud infrastructure ready to go, because it's a part of their business.  Someone will bring up Sony's Gakai here, but that's complelety different tech. It's more in line with what Microsoft calls "Rio" (cloud streaming service, which they demonstrated streaming Halo 4 to a windows phone)

 

I did not include Cloud in the comparison anyway, simply mentioned it as an aside. We will see. But I also think it's silly to pretend it doesn't exist. I'd say more that the jury is out how much it will help.

 

Even if it simply is used for dedicated servers for every multiplayer game, that alone saves CPU. I think AI might be another lowhanging fruit to offload from the local CPU, but again without any proof yet, I dont include it in my spec comparison. The picture could change in 2-3 years though.

 

 

MS Azure won't do shit for graphics just so you know otherwise they would be losing billions upons billions and that would be the end of the xbox divison. 

Indirectly it will, so stop being subborn

I BAKE 5 CAKES IN ONE OVEN ( with capacity 5 )

THEN SUDDENLY THE BAKER OFFERS TO BAKE TWO (2)

SO THAT OPENS 2 SLOTS IN MY OVEN WHICH I NOW CAN USE FOR PIZZAPIECHUTNEY

SO I WILL HAVE 5 CAKES AND TWO PIZZAPIECHUTNEYS


A more accurate analogy would be that you are cooking some pizzas, and sometimes you buy whole peppers (offline) and sometimes you buy 'remotely chopped (chopped by someone else)' peppers, (online consistent worlds) or sometimes you call your friend dave who comes over and chops them with you (online with cloud), both buying choppee peppers and having dave help you chop them saves a little bit of time and frees you up to do other things.

 

but in the grand scheme of things your neighbour has a better oven that cooks a little faster (ps4) so even though you can theoretically make a pizza a little faster by not doing everything yourself, ultimately it isn't as good as having a faster cooking oven.

 

Besides that pesky dave won't always be available to everyone cooking a pizza and sometimes he might take a while to come over, and there's always the possibility of your neighbour asking his unemployed friend guy kai to lend a hand in the future.