Including Kinect With Every Xbox One Is A Smart Move By Microsoft

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selnor1983 said:

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selnor1983 said:

Sorry I was inculding a game with the PS3. Since Xbox One you get one free.

Even then, PS3 's preorders were lower than Xbox Ones.

I wouldnt be so sure about Ps4 outselling even at a lower price point. 360 outsold PS3 because it had better games in its first 3 years. Fact on Metacritic average over first 3 years.

Bioshock for example didnt release on Ps3 till much later. Many big games werent on the PS3 early on. That drove lots of people to 360.

Xbox One has what many people call one of the best launch lineups ever. The whole first year. Even my Super Nintendo didnt have that many high quality big games.

Think alot of you are gonna be shocked. Alot of the preorders numbers is to do with lack of hardware.

At Game in the UK you can only now get an Xbox One preorder on Phase 4. Thats after Christmas. I got in early in May. My friend preordered last week. His reciept says Phase 4. Which means delivery arrives or is expected to arrive on January 6th.

Demand is very high for Xbox One.

There will be no Kinectless Sku. That would be like burning the Xbox One's next generation right there.

Sorry to burst your bubble but 360 only outsold PS3 in one year: 2008. Every other full year PS3's been on the market it outsold 360.

Thats even better news. I was simply referecing what Xenostar said about PS4 outselling Xbox One because of price. Going by what your saying makes that statement moot.

Only to the wishful thinker.

You can't draw parallels between PS3/360 and PS4/Xb one and conclude that Xb one has a shot at outselling PS4. You're assuming all things are equal aside from price and game library, when they are not. Playstation as a brand is still preferred over brand Xbox in most markets. This means PS has an automatic advantage with the customer base before any other considerations are taken into account. And that means Xbox has to overcome that automatic advantage before it reaches parity, and then is has to do even more in order to be able to pull ahead.

Xbox 360 had a price, early launch and game library advantage early in the generation, but it wasn't enough to end up ahead. Xb one doesn't have those advantages, certainly it is disadvantaged on price and while arguably it has an advantage on game library (though that is largely opinion) any advantage it has is slight by comparison to PS3/360. On the flip side 360 had a high failure rate giving it a reputation hit. Best that can be hoped for at this stage is that Xb one won't be hamstrung by such a thing.

Xb one is at a distinct disadvantage on many fronts. Kinect is in the plus column no doubt, but I don't think it's nearly enough to bring it up to parity with PS4's advantages.