Pristine20 said:
osed125 said:
Pristine20 said:
happydolphin said:
In view of the OP, what Inafune seems to be trying to say is not whether today's Mario games are overrated, good or not, but rather that Mario in all its heritage (he goes on to name his favorite, SMB3 on the NES) is part of a sort of developer's bible, from which a dev can take a pattern and work from it, so as to infuse their games with creative awesomeness.
I think that's what he means, and that would make perfect sense coming from the maker of Megaman and the upcoming MN9.
Holy mother of cherrypicking. The themes and story of Mario are full of stereotypes and cheesy art, but I think what Inafune was referring to was the creative genius in gameplay innovation, as well as not taking itself too seriously. It's pretty transparent from the OP.
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"Creative genius in gameplay innovation" is nothing more than jumping up and down while moving from left to right to me. That's as subjective as it gets. The points you praise Mario for are so subjective that it's pointless to argue them. Some see the Mona Lisa as a great work of art, others just see an ugly female portrait. Who is right? It's nice that you called my criticism "cherrypicking" but realise that it's valid. It brings home my point. When it comes to Miyamoto, everyone is quick to say 'shhh, hide the flaws' and sing about how great he supposedly is.
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Mario is simple part of gaming history, just because you don't like it doesn't mean game designers should ignore it. Is the same as artists, every artist have seen the Mona Lisa, Birth of Venus, The Scream, etc. What that artist does may be completely different from this paintings, more modern and "original", but is simple part of the media they love and dedicated their life to. It's the same as video games, games like Grim Fandango, M.U.L.E, Space Invaders, Pacman, Super Mario, etc. are part of this history and any game designer this days should look at this games and what they represent to the media.
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I can bet good money that many of what I consider good artists now were inspired by other comic books and not any of the art you posted. Does their art then automatically suck? Games are not about representing anything to the media. They are about entertaining people. You can do that without playing any of the games on your list.
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Are you misunderstanding them on purpose ?
This isn´t about good game vs. bad game !
He meant that SMB is a classic game that shows good game design (how the mechanics are teached to the player) !
If you are working in a specific artistic field, you have to know the classics of this particular area to have a well rounded schooling, weather it is comedy, film, literatur,theathre or anything else is moot !
