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Subie_Greg said:

I like how the PS4 is the PS3.5 because it doesn't have Kinect : )

Microsoft is basically saying once you try it you'll like it. Like telling someone they'll like Frog Legs or Rat Ass Pie if they just give them a chance.

I also laugh when people say Microsoft is thinking long term because of Kinect

While I do admire Microsoft for setting themselves apart from Sony, Kinect will never be anything other then a gimmick

Either some people dont realise whats happened or is going on or Playstation owners are happy to pay for something they arent using.

1. Kinect 2.0 isnt just the camera. Thats half of Kinect. Inside the console designed specifically for Kinect are seperate Chips only used by Kinect. There wont be a Kinectless Sku because half of Kinect is in the console itself. The camera isnt all of Kinect. Take away the camera, and your paying for a bunch chips that are useless to you.

2. Sony have taken the camera away. But sell you a controller which you dont need. Why dont Sony build a new controller that doesnt have the Eye feature set to save you the consumer money? Playstation fans seem glad to not pay for the camera, but pay for the controller with features they now cant use. Seems unthought out on Sonys part to me. Why not offer those who dont want the Eye a non Eye Controller cheaper? Especially those who buy more than 1.