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I like how the PS4 is the PS3.5 because it doesn't have Kinect : )

Microsoft is basically saying once you try it you'll like it. Like telling someone they'll like Frog Legs or Rat Ass Pie if they just give them a chance.

I also laugh when people say Microsoft is thinking long term because of Kinect

While I do admire Microsoft for setting themselves apart from Sony, Kinect will never be anything other then a gimmick