| SSJGohan3972 said: Again that definition is subjective, it ties it back into a legal issue ('unlawful killing') I think there are several cases of killing another human being that are murder but protected under law (and vice versa) Also I did not say punishment is inherently unjustifiable, that is you taking my words and twisting them. As I see it punishment is based on what society deems wrong which makes perfect moral sense to me but others might disagree. Once again I am not trying to change your opinion I simply disagree with it, all things - including truth and morality I believe are to use your phrase in 'the eye of the beholder' at some level. Also I disagree that morals being subjective would equate to no justification for anything but I respect that you have the right to believe that if you want.
The more I think about it the more I realize I'm fine with rules that are arbitrary at some level which is something I would not have inherently though of myself, its interesting and kind of fun to spark thinking at a bit of a higher level like this - thank you for the interesting discussion and I hope I didn't offend you with my words and/or different opinion. |
It is indeed good to challenge one's thinking, I am glad you see the value of my off topic ramblings. Many people chose to get unhinged rather than to reflect when their ideas are challenged. There's no more ground for us to cover here, we see the nature of right and wrong differently. Nothing wrong with that, I do however have to point out that the definition of murder is not subjective. It's not subjective what is unlawful, it is as close to objective as we can hope to get. Most societies invest a good deal of time, money and effort into giving clear and objective guidelines for what is unlawful and what is not.
