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theprof00 on 01 October 2013
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Machiavellian said:
iamdeath said:
theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Um because you don't need 500k dedicated servers to run gaming. MS knows, as should you, that xbox1 is simply a way of funding their cloud server. Sure they SAY they have all these servers...but you won't see the full potential of that. You'll see a fraction, because all you need is a fraction.

Exactly.............MS is puilling to wool over peoples eyes again, Xbox is such a small part of MS business only a fraction of their cloud will evr be used for xbox.

There is no wool.  MS has the capacity to provide a cloud based compute service and dedicated servers for all developers on their platform.  the fact that  MS is expanding their business as a service is the reason  all of their products benefit from this investment.  The investement is still there no mattter how you spin it.  The service and the infrastructure is there.  Even the platform which MS spent 3 years build which is Orleans is there.  I am not sure where you get the wool part.  MS has the capability to provide the resources to support their claim and they spent more than 2 billion this year building more capacity.

I am not sure what conclusion you are coming to.  Just because the X1 is not the primary revenue business for MS does not detract that it benefits from other areas of the business that make sense like Azure.

You are proving the point.

Kowen said:

"Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone."

Kowen is making the point that MS' infrastructure on Cloud is where it needs to be, and because Sony has not invested as much, and is getting outpaced, then it will not be a competant service. That is what he is saying in this quote whether he meant to or not.

Iamdeath and myself are challenging this statement.

You are agreeing. MS having HUGE resources put into cloud :

a) does not mean their xbox cloud service is further ahead.
b) Does not mean their xbox cloud is better
c) does not mean that Sony's gaikai is not competant for the purposes aforementioned.

Why? Because
a) Having more invested in a company-wide cloud system does not inherently mean apps and services are yet developed for the xb1. One is hardware and one is software.
b) Having more invested in servers only means that you are capable of running MORE and delivering MORE content. As a correction, the POTENTIAL is far better, but again, hardware and software are not the same thing.
c) Because Sony may have exactly enough for what it requires. Sony doesn't need to have 500k servers to make a sandwich, if you catch my drift.