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Kasz216 said:
snyps said:

The market will determine the price.  That's capitalism.  Drug stores will be competitive.  Let's assume your reasoning on inflated prices is correct.  It won't change the supply and demand effect on pricing.  Is it cheaper to buy drugs illegaly or legaly in Amsterdam?   Sure if some one wants to lower their price and sell to a local street dealer they can.  But at the very top of this chain are a bunch of business professionals.  Do they want to sneak around and kill their way to profits or set up an LLC and use federal express. 

 

Why?  Why can't Columbians and Afghanies sell to the US?  Why do you call the Columbian Gangs "illegal"?

 

Look at the way amsterdam handled their "heroin alley".  They don't have a black market of any consequence.   The US government will collect sales tax.  Maybe decades from now they will create a BS safety/edu tax long after the black markets are vanguished.  I just don't see where you are getting your opinion that a legal market isn't going to stamp out the illegal market.  Do you have examples of this happening in history anywhere? 

I'll assume you've seen breaking bad & scarface, just for fun, imagine what Walter White, Gustavo Fring, or Tony Montana would do in real life is prohibition ended... don't kid yourself. They'd be at the secretary of state's office signing a business license faster than you can say "los pollos hermanos".

 

Amsterdam still has a VERY big illegal drug trade. 

Most drug cafes get at least some of their Marijuana illegally for example. 

This got even bigger after Amsterdam instituted purity laws and banned stronger marijuana.  (Again showing purity laws wouldn't work.)

and keep in mind Amsterdam doesn't even tax illegal drugs at all.  Also this is freaking Marijuana, which has one of the lowest profit to production ratios out there.


And no... the free market wouldn't decide the prices.  That's the point.

Unless you think we'll be walking around with about zero taxes on illegal drugs and selling Cocaine for $5-10 bucks for a pure gram.  You comfortable with that?

 

 

Secondly, wasn't one of the big pluses of this supposed to be that it gets the money out of the hands of illegal gangs?  As for the Breaking Bad crew.

They're dealing in Meth.  Meth is a factory created drug that can be created with household items.

We aren't talking about something that's being provided outside the country for cheaper then it could ever be grown legally.  Legalizing meth and not other hard drugs might work a bit, as it'd push people over to Meth, but the downside is... Meth is just the worst drug out there really.

 

 

Why can't Columbian gangs and Afghanni Gangs sell legally in the US?  Uh, that'd be because they're giant illegal cartels that control parts of their country that the governments don't want them controlling.


It'd would be like if Amsterdam signed a deal TODAY to ship Heroin and Marijuana with the MS-13.  (That's an illegal hispanic gang.)



My understanding of Amsterdams illegal drug trade is limited to knowledge of selling illegaly to nonresidents. I've never heard of amsterdam's purity laws, i tried googling it and found nothing, but assuming you're correct. That would be a niche market and crime, especially violent crime, would drop. Does Amsterdam have gangsters and thugs and turf wars? That's the whole point of ending prohibition. Making the streets safe again!

What decided the prices of marijuana in washington and colorado? They're the same as they were on the street. The street prices then are the deciding factor. What basis do you have for cocaine being 5-10 dollars a pure gram? There's more involved than just manufacturing cost there's; shipping, book keeping, lawyers, many many employees and of coarse the ceo is gonna wanna get filthy rich right? He's gonna squeeze as much as he can for himself. They are going to sell as high as they can get away with and do so legally because it's better.

Yes. The whole point is getting the money out of the hands of killers and thugs........by making them into legitimate business men. Like i said, they would be first in line at the SOS building getting licensed. They wouldn't hire killer anymore, instead they'd be recruiting college grads. There would be no point in killing each other over profit because they could use the court system if there's a problem. There'd be contracts... and so on and so forth. Just look at the end prohibition in the 30s, it worked! Organized crime was severely damaged because the smart ones went and became legitimate entrepreneurs.

So in order for a U.S. business to buy from a foreign producer, the producer would have to demonstrate that they are a good and moral capitalist firm, correct? Well gee, if that's not giving an incentive to turn things around and join hands, then I don't know what is...