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Kasz216 on 24 September 2013
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the-pi-guy said:
Kasz216 said:
That's because they're privately owned, they don't have to release financial info.  

What is known is that they make way more moey per person than google or apple.

They're essentially all profit and no cost... well outside this box anyway.  Which I doubt they're even planning to do Xbox numbers with at first.  

Gabe Newell might be the most "secretly" rich guy out there.

What zarx said [probably] makes the argument pointless.  - He could've just said that to throw people off, even though I doubt that.  

Although personally, I feel you are still under estimating Sony.  Valve is a small company of about 400 ish employees, with the estimates I've seen of about 2 - 4 billion, 4,000,000,000 / 400 = 10,000,000$ per employee.  If Sony(overall) had the same margin, they'd be looking at over 1 trillion dollars if I did that right.  Even if you only look at Sony Computer Entertainment, a few development studios have more employees than the entirety of Valve.  Overall SCE is probably-I'd guess maybe 5 times larger than the entirety of Valve.  So SCE would have 5 times as much money as Valve, just to have the same profit per employee.    Though Permalite made a good point about credit among other things.  

I don't really think there's alot to discuss without solid numbers, because at the moment it is just "x is greater than y", but we don't know what x is, even though we do know what y is.  We can't for certain check the work based on how little we know about x.  

I do agree that Gabe is probably the most "secretly" rich guy that isn't a complete secret.

Yeah except Sony's financials are a known quantity since they are a public company.

At 2-4 billion.  They'd be ahead of Sony.

Sony's Asset to Debt ratio is .957% and growing because of loan interest.

They have about 2 billion in assets ahead of debt (think buildings and such not hard cash)... and increasing loans.

So if Valve has 2 billion in assets... they're ahead.

That's not even counting the fact that because Valve is a private company, part or the entire company could be used for collataral on a loan if they so chose... rather then just individual pieces.