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richardhutnik on 24 September 2013
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SlayerRondo said:
richardhutnik said:
snyps said:
richardhutnik said:
So, I would then question why you don't want to give up money to help other people.  Why is that?

 



Because medical coverage under the health insurance system is WAY too expensive to afford for yourself let alone pay for someone else's

My entire post was pointed an individuals who claim coersion and theft as reasons for not having government assistance.  I was arguing turning it on its head to get someone arguing coersion and theft to come out and say why they wouldn't give to help others.


So people now have to say why they don't want the government to take their money? 

If someone does not want to have their property taken by force they dont have to justify why, its THEIR MONEY.

Kindness should be voluntary not forced.

If a person agrees with doing it, then it isn't coerced/forced.  So, a person who voluntarily pays taxes isn't the subject to coersion or force or theft.

And yes, I have every right to question this, and why someone doesn't want to pay taxes if they live in a society, PARTICULARLY if the money in question goes to help the poor and those in need.  I can also question exactly what the level of kindness of a person is, when they don't want the money to be there.

In America, to argue anything about welfare being theft is seriously pushing it, because one engage in enough donations to charity that they pay no income taxes, through the use of deductions.  So, I am more than willing to ask exactly how charitable the person in question is, if they don't give enough to reduce their taxes to nothing.  And, with such said said individuals, if you didn't have social programs there, and gave the money back to them in lower taxes, exactly how much help would those in need get?

With the last statement: Kindness should be voluntary, not forced, that is very good.  So, would you agree then that individuals should be giving voluntarily and not holding back, so it isn't forced?