If medical coverage is not a necessity, what is it?

[SlayerRondo]

richardhutnik said:

SlayerRondo said:

prayformojo said:
It SHOULD be a basic human RIGHT. Anything less isn't good enough for me.

Who the hell doesnt have the right to receive medical care?

Do you mean its a basic human right that other people pay for your medical care?

If that's you're point I disagree with you as I believe it's immoral to forsably take one's person's money for the benefit of another.

If you are willing to give the money to help others, then it isn't forceably taken.  So, one can argue the problem isn't the fact the money exchanges hands, but you lack of willingness to give it up.  In this, it isn't theft either.  So, I would then question why you don't want to give up money to help other people.  Why is that?

One could go onto other aspects of what is really your stuff anyhow, but that is a different issue.

You are presuming people I am not willing to contribute money to helping the unfortunate and that is simply untrue. I say that if i want to sacrifice my own earnings for the benefit of another then it should be MY CHOICE as to how much I give, how i give it and to whom i give it to.  The government should not be in the business taking money from one group for another as it has been for both people and business for far to long. Government elections have essentialy become auctions in stolen money where governments buy votes with other people's money.

And yes the problem can be seen as people being unwilling to give their money to the government willingly because they receive no benefit from doing so. If the transaction between two parties lacks willingness on one side who receives no benefit from providing the money how is that not theft?

I would say that on the opinion on what is someone's property is anything they paid for in a consential transaction between two parties. If someone earns money they did so by transacting voluntarily with other individuals then why is 100% of that money not theirs? While I conceed that we currently have to pay some taxes for mutually beneficial services like roads and military spending people are paying taxes for these services and the government does not just get money out of thin air.

And thus all government employee are employee's of the private citizens who pay tax. Government employee's may appear to pay taxes but that is mearly an illusion as they are paying taxes with taxes in a meaningless gesture.