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Pemalite said:

X3 isn't indie. Indie assumes it's an individual working on it and it's a stupidly massive and complex game at any rate

Well my mistake about X3 if they're not indie.  It's on the Humble Weekly Sale right now and graphically it's poor in comparison to when it came out.  So that was an assumption. 

About indie developers though is that indie developers usually aren't Indie developers.  I've  actually never liked the term because it's rarely used properly.  Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, EA, Activision, Square Enix, and any company that works for them as first party(since they are a part of that company,) is an indie developer, as all funds come from that source.  Developers like thatgamecompany, Klei Entertainment, etc, are not actually indie, though they're given that stupid name anyways.  If you are funded in any way from any outside source, then you're no longer independent.  They should call them dependee developers.