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Machiavellian said:
Raven722 said:

I am of the opinion that if its exclusive it doesn't matter if it first party.I am not sure if it really matters if a game is first party.  Sony have a few studios making games for their platform that are 3rd party but gamers still see those games as part of the exclusives they look for in the platform.

@Bolded:  MS has 20 studios now, and you only heard about 5 coming out for the X1.  Just like Sony, there are plenty of first party games probably in development that MS will stagger their release.  Also MS isn't shy about getting top notch studios to product exclusives games.  When all is said and done, I am not sure if a gamer cares if a game is first, 2nd or Third party.  If its exclusive and its a good game, it increases the wealth of purchasing that system.

Perhaps I'm mistaken but it seemed as though you may have been implying that Microsoft's first-party studios were doing considerably more for the XOne this year than Sony's first-party studios are doing for the PS4. Which is why I pointed out the Microsoft's first-party studios are, in fact, not doing as such. We have heard of 7 games being developed by Microsoft's studios for the XOne. Fable Legends, Forza Motorsport 5, Halo, Kinect Sports Rivals, Project Spark, LocoCycle, and Max: Curse of the Brotherhood. I was off by one. As far as I know, only two of those games will be at launch. In this case I was off 1 or 2 games. Furthermore, Microsoft had said that they will be publishing 15 exclusive titles for Year One. They have announced 16 up to this point but I'm willing to bet one of them won't make it out this year. Probably Sunset Overdrive or Quantum Break. It's possible that Microsoft will announce more for 2014 but I highly doubt it and if they do it will be one or two games and likely small ones. Most of Microsoft's studios are brand new so it will be awhile before we see anything from them.

Microsoft being willing to do whatever with whoever is irrelevant to the point I was taking exception with.

No, I was not making comparisions on which company first party is doing the most because I have no clue.  I was only arguing the point that MS is not removing something from the 360 just to piss off 360 fans and not provide support for the console.  My point has nothing to do with Sony and more to do with MS providing support for the X1 with a game that probably benefited best on the X1 then the 360.

As for MS first party studios, most of those Studios were formed 2 years ago so about the right time to bring out a game next year.  Do not forget there is still Black Tusk which we are waiting to see what AAA game they are supose to be making.

In conclusing, I am only making a counter point to fatslob statement that MS only care about their next gen system.


Oh okay, I understand you now. I agree with you. Microsoft is not abandoning the 360 but it is in their best interest to begin moving forward. Sony isn't going to wait for them and it's pretty obvious at this point that Microsoft cannot afford to give up any ground. This last generation was already the longest in quite a while if not the longest console generation ever. The 360 has already been supported for 8 years now. Most consoles are all but dead after 5 or 6 years. I would think that even if Microsoft only supports it for another year that they have already done their part for the console. Even the support Sony shows for their consoles is on the verge of drying up after that long and they're known for supporting their consoles a long time. Even if Microsoft walked away from the 360 tomorrow and just left continued support for its online features, I would not blame them at all.

A studio takes a while to get running though. Setting up facilities, acquiring equipment, getting the people, creating the ideas, and then actually going through the motions of greenlighting projects and making them happen. Studios that already exist have a difficult time getting a game out in two years. More than a few just began recruitment a year or two ago and some will not even be making games for the XOne or just for it. They may also be making purely PC games as well as mobile games. We also don't know how many teams those studios have. We know that Lionhead has two teams and Rare has about three teams but other than that it seems as though all of their other studios are single-team so most of them will likely only be producing one game every few years depending on the size of the game. Another thing to consider is the very fact that these are brand new studios. They are untested. I'm certain some of them will have industry veterans but they still need to show what they've got. You can have 100 individual studios but if only 10 of them are making games worth anything then what's the point? 

As far as Black Tusk goes, I really don't understand the hype behind it. It's a new studio that hasn't released a single game yet but so many Xbox fans are damn near jerking off to whatever their next game is. A game that we know pretty much nothing about. Not even a name. An unproven studio with a mystery game is worth the hype it's been getting? Is it simply because MS said they want their game to rival Halo in popularity?