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snyps on 20 September 2013
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Kasz216 said:
badgenome said:
snyps said:

If you want a drink of alcohol, would you rather go to a tavern/store? Or Billy Bob's shack in the back? I'm sure opium users would rather go to a legal opium den than a abandoned house in crack alley. Don't you think?

Perhaps. But when people are generally trying to sell drug legalization, they say, "Tax and regulate that shit!" If the taxes are too high or the regulation is too strict, and there's already a well developed black market in place, nothing much will change.

Also, regulation generally means some kind of age limit. So underaged users will still need to avail themselves of the black market.


Yep... and half of the worst drugs are so fucking cheap that the black market would still end up being a huge thing... unless people are cool with cocaine and Meth that's cheaper than cigarretes.



What do you think a decent regulation/tax would be? We can only theorize or model after amsterdam.. but I'm sure what ever We come up with it's gotta be better than prohibition.

How about...

Identifie the goal of the initiative and authorize the State Liquor Control Board to regulate and tax each drug for persons twenty-one years of age and older, and add a new threshold for driving under the influence of each drug.

Establish various definitions.

Establish a license system for drug producers, processors, and retailers. Initial licenses shall be $250 with an annual renewal fee of $1000. Rules prohibit producers and processors from having any financial interest in retailers, much like the three-tier system for hard liquor in control states. Also make it clear that selling or distributing unlicensed drugs remains illegal, setting limits on the maximum amount one may possess. In the case of marijuana, Adults 21 years or older may possess up to "one ounce of useable marijuana", 16 ounces of marijuana-infused product in solid form, 72 ounces of marijuana-infused product in liquid form or "any combination" of all three. Also authorize Liquor Enforcement Officers to enforce the Uniform Controlled Substances Act. Previous to this Liquor Enforcement Officers could only enforce alcohol and tobacco laws.

Establish a "dedicated drug fund" for all revenue received by the liquor control board, and explicitly earmarks any surplus from this new revenue for health care (55%), drug abuse treatment and education (25%), with 1% for drug-related research at State Universities, most of the remainder going to the state general fund.

Again, for the case of marijuana. Set a per se DUI limit of "delta-9" THC levels at greater than or equal to 5 nanograms per milliliter of blood (5 ng/mL). The metabolite THC-COOH, also known as carboxy-THC" is explicitly excluded from consideration.

Since i know little about other drugs, I'll let some one else theorize about the maximum posession and dui limits of the harder drugs. But it's fair to assume a maximum possession limit of 1 gram of speed, heroin, crack, or coke. And a zero tolerance in dui.

As well, new specialized taverns will need to be created for each specific drug use.

Prices should be around $100 per gram of hard drugs. $100 per ounce of middle grade marijuana. $250 per ounce of high grade marijuana.

What do you think about that?