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Vashyo on 18 September 2013
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theprof00 said:
Pemalite said:
theprof00 said:
Just remember that the steam survey showed that the large majority of pc gamers' pcs do not match xbox1 or ps4 power.


Sure about that?

For one, 34.10% of video cards aren't even listed on Steam statistics.
Secondly, if a notebook uses optimus and Steam gathers the data, it will pick up the Intel GPU and not the nVidia one.
So the statistics are already skewed. :)

Thirdly, the next generation consoles will force many people to finally upgrade, even "free" graphics chips can run current console games perfectly fine with a 720P resolution @ 30fps or more.
Whenever a popular albeit demanding game is released, video card sales climb, aka. The "Crysis effect".

Heck, even today's crappy low-end Haswell Dual-Cores are faster than the 8-core Jaguar processors, that's not accounting for the fact that games won't even be able to use all 8 cores on the consoles anyway as 1-2 are reserved for the OS.

The current consoles have simply made the need to upgrade non-existent for many PC gamers, see what happens when the next generation of consoles  launches, but as it stands today, a 6-7 year old PC is perfectly capable of playing pretty much all the multi-platforms at 720@30fps, provided they have at-least a modern $40 GPU.

Yeah and it's pretty obvious that it's true.

First of all, the specs in the pc config are just barely equal, and don't include several other costs:
No bluray, no os, no input devices.

The ps4 and 1 are pretty expensive to equal in parts cost, and on top of that, everyone knows that console hardware is optimized to run faster than their pc counterparts, and the games are optimized to the hardware.

It's very much doubtful that a 6-7 year old 500-600$ pc could run the psone multiplats. Maybe a 1k$ computer from 6 years ago.
I built my pc about 8 years ago for 1400, and have kept the videocard somewhat up to date (200$ every 4 years). I have trouble running most new releases. PC gamers say the same thing every generation and it's never true.

Not to mention that this gpu exceeds the power capability on that psu, and still uses more power that the xb1 or ps4.

And that mobo is pretty crappy, and would probably limit the ram...(oh and no warranty included either)

You bought overexpensive pc 8 years ago and expect it to run great today? was it ready built or did you build it yourself? Just upgrading ur GPU isn't going to cut it at that point, especially now that developers have to learn splitting tasks on more weaker cores (thanks to consoles), there finally is a reason to own 4-8 core cpu.

I run a 500w PSU with setup that uses more power than his, his PSU should be fine as long as he isnt trying to heavily overclock it. There are some pages that u can use to calculate some estimates based on what ur going to connect onto your computer.

Why exactly do you think that mobo is crappy and will limit the ram, it actually supports 32gb of ram and it says it has 3 years warranty...MSI has been around for a long time, they know their stuff.

Optimization doesnt only exist on consoles, btw. You have to optimize your game for as big of a PC audience as possible otherwise ur doing the same thing Crytek did with Crysis 1. Too powerful stuff for too weak PCs = not selling to maximum potential.