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Kasz216 said:
kitler53 said:
richardhutnik said:
kitler53 said:
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so just like an atheist.

It is a trend I am seeing, and I welcome counterpoints to this.  Like, what gets heralded as top atheist lists:

http://www.superscholar.org/features/influential-atheists/

It is all about intellect above everything else.  You see other religious side, and people will herald moral character.  It is just the atheist side, it seems to be all about intellect.  Individuals with spotty personal lives get heralded as being great.  

And here is another one:

http://www.thebestschools.org/blog/2011/12/01/50-top-atheists-in-the-world-today/

 

Contrast that with how other people end up doing top list:

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2111975_2111976,00.html

http://www.adherents.com/adh_influ.html

 

the only counter point i can think is atheists are a diverse group so no one particular statement may apply to all of them.

 

the "religous" athiests i know tend to have something of a similar backstory of not being able to have faith in an idea (religion) that has no evidence, proof, or substantive argument beyond "believe or you will be punished for not believing".  and that tends to be the same skepticive outlook that is the foundation of scientific thought.  so yeah, many atheists are intellectuals that pride intelligence over other personal attributes.

..but there are also the apethetic athiests that don't believe in religion not because they are adamant religion is wrong but they don't care to learn enough out religion to disbute it.  ..and then there is the agnostic athiests.


You are missing the kind of atheist I see the most oddly.   The "Brought up Evangelical or strict Catholic Atheist."

They're always fun because while they rail against everything they were tought, they never really pick up critical reasoning skills so they tend to support any silly ass theory that is a counter to organized religion.

These are the people that believe in stuff like Zeitgeist and there being no historical christ.

Essentially not focusing on the intellectual or the moral, but instead simply reflecting against what they were previously taught.

There may be some exceptions, but my view is that when people deconvert from something, unless there is some other element that drives change outside the person, the person will remain the same, but have a different view.  In short, if you were a really obnoxous religious person, you become a really obnoxous religious person.  Dan Barker, for example, stopped being an evangelical Christian, and went on to be an evangelical atheist, founding an organization to promote lack of religion.  Same person, just without the Christian religion.

I can say someone can deconvert and take a more humble view of things, but that isn't that common.  Or at least such a person really isn't heard from afterwards.