Pemalite said:
Shinobi-san said:
The amount of people who have decent gaming PC's compared to people who have consoles is pretty insignificant.
Go out amongst your friends and find out which of them can play games besides Dota, LOL, indie titles etc. and you will see that most of them can't. Yet most of them will have a console of some sort. I dont think the numbers are even comparable.
On the positive side though i think PC gaming is on the rise and more and more people are playing games on the PC's instead of their consoles.
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Fact of the matter is, you don't need a super fast PC to play pretty much every game at 720P@30fps, it's the consoles that have held back people needing to upgrade for years, even Intel graphics can handle that now, check the Steam statistics in a couple years after Microsoft and Sony launch their new consoles, you might just end up surprised.
If I look at all the PC's my friends have (It's not that hard, we are all PC gamers and all connect to the town-wide wireless network, not to mention I built most of them!) then the slowest PC is easily a Core 2 Quad with a Radeon 6570, which again, handles every game just fine at 720P, even if it is essentially 6-7 years old.
 
As you can see, the PC gaming market is much larger than the consoles, more profitable and more people spend more hours playing on it, of course Asia is a *massive* pusher of the platform.
Look at any PC exclusive title, they sell 10's of millions of units, each copy sold is more profitable than it's console counterpart... And unlike gaming on Xbox Live and Playstation Network, the more obscure or older games aren't barren of people to play with, I could pick up a copy of StarCraft which is about 15 years old and still find a match, today.
Shinobi-san said:
Well either you are rich or highly enthusiastic about things like that. People who earn an average wage dont budget for a high end PC unless its something they really into. Which still brings us back to a very small amount of people.
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It's not a case of they can't budget for a high-end PC, mine isn't really high-end, it's more enthusiast class level of hardware, having 3 GPU's, 6 core processor, 32Gb of ram all under water, with triple 27" monitors.
A single high-end GPU and an AMD 8-core CPU is easily within the grasp of most people, the bonus too is it does more than just play games.
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Half of your post has got nothing to do with mine.....Not sure why you replied to my first post? Perhaps you think im bashing PC's or something? I have no idea really.
I did not say you need a super fast PC to play games at 720p @30FPS. Not once did i mention it. I also said absolutely nothing about consoles holding back PC's etc. I mean seriously what are you on about? You are bringing in stuff that has got nothing to do with my post.
Im also well aware of steam statistics and trends. So i doubt il be surprised by the results of future surveys.
Also your whole story about your friends? Again not sure what that has to do with anything.
I made a clear distinction between games like LoL, DOTA, Indies (i was implying popular MMOs as well) in my post, which is something like 80% of the PC gaming market you talk about. Those games are NOT the norm on PC's theres only a handful of those games that are that popular, and its because of those games that the PC gaming market is as big as it is. Again i know this. Why are you telling me this?
You almost always react this defensively when it comes to threads that has something to do with PC gaming in it. Its ridiculous.
Every point in my initial post is valid. Perhaps i didnt put it in the best words or something but i think most people get the idea. If you choose to see that as some sort of neg against PC gaming then so be it.
