Obama's Veep, who do you think it will be?

[Kasz216]

Avinash_Tyagi said:

Kasz216 said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:
Yeah they are pushing for sanctions, sanctions which are being pressed mostly due to the bush administration, in spite of the fact that intel reports state that they are wrong, but you know that the bush admin and the GOP doesn't care about intelligence

Staying in iraq is doing the same thing, you are stating that we risk our own country to try and maintain a false sense of security in the country, that is crazy, yes the US screwed up by going in, but that doesn't mean we should continue to waste our own resources trying to keep order in a country when the people of that country aren't willing to take the steps needed to keep their contry together

 

You really don't think they aren't trying? Yeah, i'm sure they love their country being an uneasy war torn country. Split up the country or give it to the UN. Those options are fine too.

Just pulling out to leave them to themselves to kill each other though.

That's even more disgraceful then what got us into Iraq in the first place.

Yeah they aren't doing it, they have been given goals to reach and have failed consistently to achieve them, even petraeus admitted that. Bush doesn't want to make the decision to divide the nation, and other nations won't pick up the slack so we have to face facts and withdraw and le the chips fall as they may

 

No its more accepting of the reality, America is not the power it once was and trying to maintain that image will result in our downfall

Does failed to meet them mean they aren't trying? Or does it mean they just haven't met those goals. I could give myself 50 miles today. If I stop after 5 have i not tried?

Screw Bush then. What about Obama. Why doesn't HE want to make that decision. Why does he instead wish to just pull out and let the country destroy itself? Why doesn't he want to fix it if this is such an easy fix instead of letting them kill each other?

I mean he is going to be president right?  Why can't he fix things like that?  Why would bush have anymore imput after Barak is in power?