Legend11 said:
dsgrue3 said:
Darth Tigris said:
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Thats cool if hes actually giving out information that we didnt know to correct people.
But he needs to stop talking about the performance differnce between X1 and PS4, Im sure he knows his beans about X1 but he knows fuck all about PS4 they wont have PS4 devkits, they can highlight every trick there pulling to maximize performance, but doesnt mean Sony dont have similar tricks as well to maximize there spec.
Developers that have had there hands on both have said there is a noticable performance difference when they start developing on them.
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What developers? People keep making statements like that with no proof, yet Penello (who proofed everything he stated) keeps getting gang bullied by likely biased Gaffers. Some call that passion, I call it what it is: a complete lack of respect and decorum. Shames me as a gamer. It's why people like Cerny are staying away from gamers and forums.
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He actually did not prove anything...he cited an anonymous source of some "Technical Fellow."
He posted factually incoherent information and was rightfully called out for it. Go read the thread and quit sipping the koolaid.
As to developers confirming a performance advantage for PS4, a simple google search is all that is required. I mean, really, are you so devoted to living in the dark that you won't actively seek out information for yourself?
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/07/xbox_one_developer_concedes_that_ps4_is_more_powerful
http://www.gamechup.com/war-thunder-dev-ps4-gpu-is-40-more-powerful-than-xbox-one-gpu/
http://www.edge-online.com/news/ps4-is-more-powerful-than-xbox-one-on-paper-but-microsoft-will-catch-up-says-avalanche-studios/
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Nobody is arguing that there isn't a performance advantage (not even Penello), he's simply stating that the performance difference some people have been throwing around is overstated.
As for your links, the first one gives us nothing about raw numbers or how much of a performance difference there is, just that there is one, so it's basically useless.
As for the second link does the developer even have Xbox One development units? If so could you tell us which Xbox One game he is working on as I couldn't find one and he appears to just be talking about the same stats that were published before.
Also that third link basically reinforces what Penello is saying so it makes no sense to use that one either.
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I'm afraid I have to leave this quote tree infact since this person obviously cannot follow the above train.
The point of contention is in bold, but I'll paste it here so you can read it again.
"Developers that have had there hands on both have said there is a noticable performance difference when they start developing on them."
This was the starting position of Xenostar.
Then we have Darth Tigris following with:
"What developers? People keep making statements like that with no proof"
This is what I'm responding to, precise metrics are completely unnecessary to this particular conversation. It's a deviation of the thread OP, perhaps attempt to understand what is being contested before chiming in with obsolete statements.
It's exceedingly tiring addressing the posts of overtly defensive fans of a certain ilk.
