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the2real4mafol said:
Kasz216 said:
the2real4mafol said:

It's a good thing, these fast food companies make huge profits, it's time for it to reach the workers. What do shareholders and bosses do exactly to deserve what they get?

it wouldn't matter if all the good manufacturing and service jobs had stayed in the country. 

Own and run a company where a product is in high demand and labor is in low demand.

Low skill wages are paid low for a reason, lets take a simplistic abstract example.

Say you've got two companies of 3 workers each.

They each send out mass emails via button press.

One is the owner, who has put up the money for the company,  One is the manager and a third is a guy who presses a button.

One company is far more successful then the other because the owner put up more money, and the Manager got better deals per click.

The guys pressing the buttons are doing the exact same thing, just as well as each other.

Why would the guy who pushes buttons for the richer company be paid significantly more.  Espeically when there are 8 guys out there willing to push buttons for the same price?

Say the successful company gets bigger, they add a second button pusher.  The manager gets a big raise (rightfully) for expanding buisness so much.  That makes sense right?   

The problem with low skill jobs is just that.  They're low skill, so those workers don't really contribute as much to the companies profits as they make even now.

All a raise in wages might change is an increase in automation.  Since a lot of the fast food industry coould be a lot more automized, it just doesn't make sense at the moment wage wise.   I mean heck, your from Europe, you should know more then anybody.

In europe they have Automats and a LOT more "Self order" screens where you place your own order by computer.   

All those fat cats talk about trickle down economics like it's something great and yet they keep the wealth for themselves. 

Seriously if a company is extremely successful, then those who work for it not just the boss, should get paid better as a reward for doing so well. Everyone who works for a company plays their part in helping a company to do well, all the boss does is own it. He or she would be no where without all the workers they hired, they need to stop taking the piss. And if the company does bad, EVERYONE earns less as an incentive to do better. Currently, all that happens is that some workers lose their jobs while there bosses get richer yet, they get away with their mistakes and seem to get rewarded for it with bonuses. It's not good enough.

Companies need to be economically, socially and enviromentally responsible for their actions and impact on society. All i see right now is just pure greed. Stuff like automation and outsourcing of jobs just proves it. They get away with paying little for an African or a Chinese person (or anyone else in the developing world) to do the same thing and don't have to pay a machine at all as it's non-living being.  i don't think thats right. 

Also, funily enough when the "good industries" all get outsourced, it's low skill jobs or high skill jobs which require decrees that remain, there's no in between. So it's not suprising that many people must rely either on government benefits or on a low paid job. Had we (most of the western world) kept most of our manufacturing industries like Germany did, the low paid and low skill jobs would mostly be for the young who could live on it, not adults who need far better wages to live on. And the German economy has only kept it's manufacturing jobs thanks to government regulation and unions. These private companies would of left Germany had they had the chance and yet despite higher labour costs, companies like VW are very profitable. 


While this is very long... you didn't actually provide any real arguements.

Why should someone who does the same job, just as well get paid more or less depending on how well other people do their job?

 

As for Germany... guess what Germany doesn't have.  Minimum Wage.