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TheHunt3r_Orion on 08 September 2013
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biglittlesps said:
TheHunt3r_Orion said:

 

This is exactly what this means. PS4 and Xbox One are on level with PC's, like they stated (back in March/April/May). AMD has stated that the PS4's APU is the most powerful APU they have ever created, which is better than the Xbox One. However, PS4 only co-designed on the cpu portion of the APU. Microsoft has it's own division inside AMD which they fund majorly. Microsoft has been switching from Nvidia these past few months, which is odd right? I am stating right now, the PS4 has the better APU. But the Xbox One has the better dGPU. So overall performance, Xbox One would come out ontop right?

And if you believe the Russian MisterX, who is only dealing with Xbox One portion of this "rumor" (all but confirmed by now), Xbox One's APU is 1.31 tFLOPS. By his math, which does add up (do it yourself), the dGPU pushes 3.7 tFLOPS of raw power ontop of the 1.31 to add up to 5 tFLOPS of total raw power. However, his source tells him to expect over 1.31 and below 5.3 tFLOPS of raw power. Between those.

Then you think...At E3, Microsoft's games were run on devkits with Nvidia GTX 780 cards. Around 4 tFLOPS of raw power. So we can guesstimate all month. Just wait until September 25th through September 30th for final specs of definitely the Xbox One, possibly the PS4.

Do you really think there will be another 500$ worth of dGPU in Xbone along with their APU/Kinet and other hardware they have revelead so far? Nobody is bringing the price of the console in this rumour, if its included. Already they have kinect which is worth of atleast 100-150$ which leaves for 350-400$ for dGPU and other Xbone hardware, so its seems impossible for them to include and also in the late cycel just before one month. 

What I expect from microsoft is that about their co-processors and kinect hardware being used in games for some more raw power in cleaver way(programmmatically, their power is directx) other than this i don't expect any dGPU from them. 

How many times do I have to say this..? Price is already included. By Microsoft's account, the Kinect has military grade technology in it. And they said..."It costs almost as much to make as the actual Xbox One."

You are assuming on your preconcieved notions that the dGPU is gonna cost other worldly and ADD to the cost. Let me spell it out for you. It. Will. Not.

Not only will it not, the reason it will not is a hell of a smooth move by Microsoft. Microsoft co-designed the APU for the Xbox One with AMD. What does that mean? That mean's Microsoft has a say in price. They put 3 billion into developing the console along with whatever AMD put in. They (Microsoft) put in most of the money. Now, this APU + dGPU chipset by AMD is WAY cheaper than normal chips because it is not seperate. It is CPU + GPU + dGPU on the same chip. All on the same chip. It cut's price significantly. This is why Microsoft can say they will either break even or make a profit and not take a loss at launch. AMD will get their significantly smaller percentage per Xbox (not 80% like Nividia used to get). The APU is already cheap. The dGPU takes up the most cost. At most, you could say Microsoft will take a loss because of the Kinect. So total system will cost $400-$450 to make. The $100 to $50 will be profit for Microsoft.