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Zappykins said:
SvennoJ said:
 

I've never owned any sony audio equipment as far as I can remember. I'm sold on Yamaha and B&W for my audio needs.
What do you mean by only if you go 2 channel? I get 5.1 DTS via optical on my Yamaha AX1 and 192/24/7.1 via hdmi on my Yamaha RX-v3800.

Best quality sound for movies on blu-ray so far are Baraka and Samsara (96/24 DTS-HD) and Akira (192/24 Dolby TrueHD) sounds phenomenal, crystal clear surround sound. When I put on a CD after it feels like my speakers are broken. (Luckily Yamaha has a lot of great dsp programs to liven up CD sound, The Bottom Line from New York is my favorite atm)

120p 4k 192/24 sound, now we're talking next-gen. It's possible with pixeljunk type graphics, but it sucks that ps4 and xb1 are stuck with hdmi 1.4, and tvs don't accept true 120hz yet. (well some do with a bit of tinkering http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/120hz-pc-to-tv/)

Well, envious of your Yamaha!  They make great stuff. B&W too, plus their speakers are usually pretty, pretty.  

For the 2 channel, I was referring directly to the PS3 manual, got that from Sony themselves.

If you have a B&W CD player they should multi sample, which helps a bit, but not as much as up-scaling a DVD to 1080p in my opinion.  Sounds like your Yamaha is doing that already or making 'environmental sound.'

Even HDMI 2, due out this fall, doesn't quite get their either.  It will do 120FPS, but that is for 3D with 1080P per eye, not true 120FPS. But it should give 4K at 60P.  So guess, I want 4K at 240 FPS (so you get 120 per eye.)  I know I aim high, but we will never get to Alpha Centari if we just shoot for Mars.

I will have to check those out.  Been a long time since I have seen Akiria, thanks for the other movie suggestions.  Perhaps you want to start a  'great movie sound' thread?

The 2 channel is over scart and analog connections, optical is limited to 5.1, hdmi does it all.

I use my JVC dvd player or the ps3 for CD's after my Pioneer Laserdisc/CD player broke down. I guess no multi sampling in the dvd player. The ps3 does upconvert CD sound to 176.4 khz output but I don't really hear a difference, the source is still mastered in only 2 channel 44.1khz. I do hear a difference when I let the ps3 convert to 48khz output (which is the default I think) 44.1khz to 48khz conversion isn't perfect. I'm pretty picky about my sound, ripping cd's to 48khz mp3 (no matter what bitrate) to mix with game sound is too much quality loss.
Anyway yes Yamaha has very nice dps processing to give the music the accoustics of a large venue. It works so well It had my kids fooled when I had the ps eye turned on with the amp adding cathedral sound processing to every sound it picked up. Fun stuff.

Hmm still no 120fps with HDMI 2.0, just the frame packing kind for 3D from 1.4b. 4k at 60fps is a nice step, but why not 1080p120, most modern tv's can handle 120hz internally. Damn the HDMI organisation, so slow. I hope they still make good on 10 and 12 bit deep color, no more color banding would be nice. Again tv's already to 12 bit color processing internally, and games have high precision HDR rendering nowadays, yet still forced to push the much richer visuals through a narrow 8 bit pipe.

About game sound, there is a lot of room for improvement there too for environmental sound. Music in games has come a long way but sounds when simply walking around still have a long way to go before it becomes convincing. The old model of a few sound generators here and there and some ambient environmental noises has to be overhauled. Let me hear the individual crickets when I explore the forests in Skyrim, a sudden gust of wind moving through the trees above you, tree limbs rubbing together. Flowing water sound that doesn't simply diminish by distance and takes the environment into account.

So yes imo, sacrifice some graphics grunt and put the GPU to use to render thousands of localized sounds together into a convincing outdoor space. But you can't make a screenshot of it, and reviews hardly ever mention sound quality apart from the music. So not holding my breath for more realistic sound any time soon. Gotto stick to movies to feel like you're there for sound, I'll make that thread some time.