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S.T.A.G.E. said:
richardhutnik said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DarthVolod said:


Allard already responded to this, but yeah, the point stands. Dropping Kinect and lowering the price to be at par with Sony if not lower (assuming it really costs $150 or so) would be far from a risk. Profitability is kind of being left to chance here ... they are hoping that people will see value in Kinect 2 and, through word of mouth and other means, people will make the jump to Xbox One with the $100 price difference being justified in no small part by Kinect 2.

Personally, I think it is a bad idea, and it is a risk I would not take if I was in MS's position. You and I are actually on the same page with this ... I recall you questioning the value of the Kinect in the past, or am I wrong?


Yep, I've been calling bullshit on Microsoft for the longest about the Kinect being "needed" for the XboxOne to run and I accused them of force bundling the Kinect. I turned out to be right. They can keep it in there, its not like I am buying the Xbox Just yet (LOL). I cannot blame them for doing it, but I am just that type of person who calls a company on their bullshit. Its not going to help their chances of winning in America at all, because people will look at two things lineup and price if they have no brand loyalty.

A feature you want integrated into games on your system ends up resulting in what is used to make the feature so needed.  Same with Microsoft trying to push the whole cloud computing and always on.  They do want a system that is totally integrated with the Internet, and also happens to totally integrate with your motion, movement, voice, and so on.  Of course, when early adopter don't find it cool, and rebel, you have problems on your hand.  And that is where Microsoft is with the ONE at this point.  You do have the faithful partisans who will end up arguing everything Microsoft does is golden and defend it on forums like this, but they aren't necessarily the norm.


Everyone has something they offer to the gaming industry. Sony has always upped the formats, MS has helped with the online and online based software elements. It just might work. We'll see how the dedicated servers work with the cloud computing goes. I dont think the Kinect will be integrated into everygame. Does every Sony game use six axis? Not necessarily. Microsoft wants to make sure the tech gets used but Kinect in its state is only a supporting device and not enough of one to create an experience. I wish I could say it was but cloud computing has more potential to smooth out the online experience than even it does and thats not even proven yet.

What I should of also added to integrated with the system, is that the integration is supposed to be a featurer differentiator in order to generate sales.