S.T.A.G.E. said:
DarthVolod said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DarthVolod said:
No matter what your opinion of MS, you have to give some credit for taking a risk. If we have all been talking about a sku without a Kinect for months, chances are they have been talking about it since the start. I'm sure some people at MS probably thought a Xbox One that was $100-$200 cheaper at launch would give the system more of a boost than a bundled Kinect.
While I am a supporter of the Kinect, I tend to agree that a launch Xbox One that was priced at $399, or, even better, $350, would give the system more of a boost than any potential value added by the Kinect. I don't see TV services being something that will draw people to the console either.
While Kinect 1 sold well, it never really had that killer title that everyone had to play. MS is laying the groundwork for either themselves, or a third party to come in and actually invest in Kinect 2 with at least the confidence that an install base will exist for it considering that every Xbox One owner will also be a Kinect 2 owner.
Not a risk I would take, but MS is taking a chance I'll give them that.
Penello and others seem to believe that Kinect 2 should win out over a price cut for the system.
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Microsoft is not taking a risk with the Kinect, hence why they are force bundling it. They will not leave the profitability to chance this time around.
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Allard already responded to this, but yeah, the point stands. Dropping Kinect and lowering the price to be at par with Sony if not lower (assuming it really costs $150 or so) would be far from a risk. Profitability is kind of being left to chance here ... they are hoping that people will see value in Kinect 2 and, through word of mouth and other means, people will make the jump to Xbox One with the $100 price difference being justified in no small part by Kinect 2.
Personally, I think it is a bad idea, and it is a risk I would not take if I was in MS's position. You and I are actually on the same page with this ... I recall you questioning the value of the Kinect in the past, or am I wrong?
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Yep, I've been calling bullshit on Microsoft for the longest about the Kinect being "needed" for the XboxOne to run and I accused them of force bundling the Kinect. I turned out to be right. They can keep it in there, its not like I am buying the Xbox Just yet (LOL). I cannot blame them for doing it, but I am just that type of person who calls a company on their bullshit. Its not going to help their chances of winning in America at all, because people will look at two things lineup and price if they have no brand loyalty.
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A feature you want integrated into games on your system ends up resulting in what is used to make the feature so needed. Same with Microsofty trying to push the whole cloud computing and always on. They do want a system that is totally integrated with the Internet, and also happens to totally integrate with your motion, movement, voice, and so on. Of course, when early adopter don't find it cool, and rebel, you have problems on your hand. And that is where Microsoft is with the ONE at this point. You do have the faithful partisans who will end up arguing everything Microsoft does is golden and defend it on forums like this, but they aren't necessarily the norm.
