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spemanig said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
spemanig said:

I think you underestimate brand loyalty. The 360 needed to release a year early. The original Xbox only had 20 million sales and no prior cosoles to build off of. The Xbox One has an extremely dedicated 80 million. Hasn't beaten them in America. That majority shows just how feeble the Sony brand loyalty is. No one in the mass market cares about most Sony exclusives. Most people have never heard of Uncharted, Sony's second most successful franchise, which isn't saying much. No one in the mass market knows what Infamous is. They don't know what Killzone is. They don't know what LBP is. But they know Halo, and Gears of War, and Kinect Adventures. Their fans are attached to the most successful multiplatform franchise of the generation, Call of Duty. Now they have Titanfall. If you think that doesn't matter, I can't help you. And they can't easily take anything away. Sony had GTA as a Sony exclusive before the PS3. That will never happen again. That's why half their install base defected to the 360. Now FFXV and KH3 aren't exclusive. The Xbox fanbase isn't going anywhere.


Brand loyalty.....something Microsoft has the least of compared to Sony and Nintendo. Loyalty, and brand awareness is why they are paying EA through the teeth for IP advantages in Europe at launch and after. I wish I could say I agreed, but history has proven otherwise. With Microsofts first and second party from last gen and the gen before, its easy to see why they gained the first generation sales that they did.


Sony doesn't have Microsoft's brand loyalty. 80 million people defected from the PS2 to the 360. Meanwhile, you can say whatever you want about how the 360 got it's brand loyalty, but the fact is that those reason's are transfering from generation to generation. That isn't happening for the PS4. 360 fans have a reason not to defect. PS2 owners didn't. I think the PS4's brand loyalty will be stronger than the PS2 to the PS3's was, but it won't be enough to convert those already defected to the 360, and it won't be as strong as the Microsoft's is. I think the the Wii U will sell the most, the XBO will come in second near the early halfway point, and the PS4 will be a close third, but I think the PS4 will be considered the most "gamer" console, with the XBO second, and the Wii U a not as distant as the Wii third.

Do you actually understand what brand loyalty even is? or are you just churning out nonsense you read someone else say?

if people went from PS2 to 360, its not microsoft brand loyalty

if people went from xbox to xbox 360, THAT would be brand loyalty.

360 launch with no direct competitor from Sony, for 11-16 months depending where in the world you lived, those wanting a new console and not wanting to wait a year to get one, bought a 360, some didnt buy a ps3 due to price, or simply having felt comfortable with the 360, others did.

But seriously, claiming microsoft has "more brand loyalty", because people went from a SONY console to a MICROSOFT console is just outright crazy,

Also, incase you havent been paying attention lately - despite an additional year to a year and a half on sale, the 360 is no longer ahead in sales, so even if all current owners of current systems stuck with the brand consoles they currently have, the ps4 would still come out on top.

 

Now on to the bold. The console hasnt even hit 80 million in sales yet and youre claiming each and every one of them are all ex sony fans? you know, some people.. i dont know.. own more than just one system.. and if i was going to make such claims id be more inclined to say the Wii got more of sonys players than the xbox did.

But hey, keep crafting that world of delusion.